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by steve7150
Sat Jan 10, 2009 8:10 am
Forum: Views of Hell
Topic: The Danger of Universalism
Replies: 63
Views: 19772

Re: The Danger of Universalism

I was just wondering what differences you understand there to be between "correction" and "punishment". As I see it, one can be just as painful as the other. In studying the various views of punishment, we find that "correction" is one of three main views of "punishment". It is called "the reformat...
by steve7150
Sat Jan 10, 2009 7:15 am
Forum: Views of Hell
Topic: Eternal life and immortality
Replies: 18
Views: 6263

Re: Eternal life and immortality

Todd, please describe the people who will have immortality but not eternal life. Describe their future after their resurrection. Paidion, maybe "eternal" life is a state of existence in which we know God as opposed to not knowing God as Jesus said. If this is true then we can lose "eternal" life by...
by steve7150
Thu Jan 08, 2009 11:12 pm
Forum: Views of Hell
Topic: The Danger of Universalism
Replies: 63
Views: 19772

Re: The Danger of Universalism

It's interesting Homer that a truly evil person can on their deathbed confess Jesus as their Lord and spend eternity in heaven with apparently no punishment ever for this person yet this scenerio does'nt trouble you. The efficacy of the atonement of our Lord knows no limits Yes Homer and this truth...
by steve7150
Thu Jan 08, 2009 11:08 pm
Forum: Views of Hell
Topic: The Danger of Universalism
Replies: 63
Views: 19772

Re: The Danger of Universalism

The problem for the Universalist is that they can not show that any punishment at all will be needed to bring about a confession of Jesus as Lord Homer, One important factor that i think we all just forget about is that according to Paul , the devil BLINDS the minds of unbelievers. If salvation is ...
by steve7150
Thu Jan 08, 2009 11:00 pm
Forum: Views of Hell
Topic: The Danger of Universalism
Replies: 63
Views: 19772

Re: The Danger of Universalism

Steve, Your point that there is a difference in the status of individuals in the resurrection is supported in this verse. Heb 11:35 Women received back their dead, raised to life again. Others were tortured and refused to be released, so that they might gain a better resurrection. Todd Not that I w...
by steve7150
Wed Jan 07, 2009 11:31 pm
Forum: Views of Hell
Topic: The Danger of Universalism
Replies: 63
Views: 19772

Re: The Danger of Universalism

Curiously, the Universalist feels compelled to teach that the unsaved must undergo a long period of painful "correction". They cannot show from scripture that this correction will, of necessity, be long or short. That there is anything preventing an immediate confession. Indeed, given their positio...
by steve7150
Mon Dec 29, 2008 8:10 pm
Forum: The Trinity
Topic: Begotten before all ages
Replies: 62
Views: 27181

Re: Begotten before all ages

Did'nt Paul use the word begotten to refer to the resurrection? No, he used the word "born" for that purpose. You may have the following passage in mind: And we bring you the good news that what God promised to the fathers, this he has fulfilled to us their children by raising Jesus, as also it is ...
by steve7150
Sun Dec 28, 2008 9:17 pm
Forum: Roman Catholicism
Topic: The Holy Mother Virgin Mary
Replies: 30
Views: 13758

Re: The Holy Mother Virgin Mary

but I know some "good Catholic" folks who are "enslaved" to the RC doctrines who have a heartfelt commitment to Christ and His kingdom. I have a hard time not believing they are "saved." (Consider our new friend, Tom, for example from what I can gather from his radio appearances). They sure show th...
by steve7150
Sat Dec 27, 2008 3:27 pm
Forum: The Trinity
Topic: Shema Yisrael
Replies: 90
Views: 44047

Re: Shema Yisrael

Pierac, Many people don't believe in the trinity since it's difficult to comprehend and not clearly stated. I do think the trinity is true in that everything originates from the One God yet Jesus is the WORD of God and the Holy Spirit is the Spirit of God yet their divinity comes from the Source or ...
by steve7150
Sat Dec 27, 2008 3:18 pm
Forum: Calvinism, Arminianism & Open Theism
Topic: Justification
Replies: 5
Views: 3084

Re: Justification

Does Justification mean justification into salvation, or is it simply you are justified into the covenant ofGod with Israel aka the Church?Jim I think the covenant with Israel aka the church is in fact the New Covenant from which salvation is the most important aspect. So justification means we are...

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