"I don't love you sometimes."

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Post by _darin-houston » Fri Apr 18, 2008 4:42 pm

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Are the faults you shared with us things she has expressed to you


Yes those are her complaints abo
If she truly loved you once (felt love towards you), I suspect that can be re-kindled.

It sure sounds like (from the book recommendation) she has the love language of quality time (at least). I do recommend the book especially if you do it together, but meantime to get you started....

The basic gist of the book is that people have different ways of expressing love and different ways of "feeling loved" and they may not be the same for a given person. The languages are below.

The premise, though, is that you can spend all the time in the world focused directly on your wife, take long walks together, stare admiringly in her eyes for hours, etc., but if her love language (the way she feels loved) is Receiving Gifts, then she won't necessarily feel loved unless you occasionally buy her a trinket (even an inexpensive one). If her love language is Quality Time, then buying her diamond necklaces every day won't make her feel loved unless you give them to her while you are taking a long walk each day. In fact, if it's not her love language, overdoing the others might even be seen as annoying (maybe).

I think the most important thing for a woman to feel love towards her husband is to respect him, and to feel secure, and loved unconditionally by him. If you still feel that way to her, all you have to do is express it. If you find you don't feel so much yourself toward her, I recommend pretending like you do -- act like you do -- convince yourself you do -- act lovingly towards her and I suspect your actual feelings towards her will change. Decide and commit to acting towards her like you did when you met and you may find you re-generate that spark yourself. I've seen women just turn hard in a way that can't be returned, but if you do this (and it might take months), I would be very surprised if she doesn't respond in kind (and probably pretty quickly).

(I'm talking to myself a bit here, but ...) Put the books and other interests down and love her. Clean the kitchen -- vacuum the floor -- take the kids and see if she wants to take a night class or go to a womens' bible study. Pray together. Bring her flowers. Give her a spontaneous card of appreciation. Remind her you find her attractive -- tell her she's a great mom. Tell people in public within her hearing how much you love her or what a great ___ she did. Point her out in public as being a great wife and mother. Avoid the mundane walk of life.
Words of Affirmation
Mark Twain once said “I can live for two months on a good compliment.” Verbal appreciation speaks powerfully to persons whose primary Love Language is “Words of Affirmation.” Simple statements, such as, “You look great in that suit,” or “You must be the best baker in the world! I love your oatmeal cookies,” are sometimes all a person needs to hear to feel loved.

Aside from verbal compliments, another way to communicate through “Words of Affirmation” is to offer encouragement. Here are some examples: reinforcing a difficult decision; calling attention to progress made on a current project; acknowledging a person’s unique perspective on an important topic. If a loved one listens for “Words of Affirmation,” offering encouragement will help him or her to overcome insecurities and develop greater confidence.

Quality Time
Quality time is more than mere proximity. It’s about focusing all your energy on your mate. A husband watching sports while talking to his wife is NOT quality time. Unless all of your attention is focused on your mate, even an intimate dinner for two can come and go without a minute of quality time being shared.

Quality conversation is very important in a healthy relationship. It involves sharing experiences, thoughts, feelings and desires in a friendly, uninterrupted context. A good mate will not only listen, but offer advice and respond to assure their mate they are truly listening. Many mates don’t expect you to solve their problems. They need a sympathetic listener.

An important aspect of quality conversation is self-revelation. In order for you to communicate with your mate, you must also be in tune with your inner emotions. It is only when you understand your emotions and inner feelings will you then be able to share quality conversation, and quality time with your mate.

Quality activities are a very important part of quality time. Many mates feel most loved when they spend physical time together, doing activities that they love to do. Spending time together will bring a couple closer, and, in the years to come, will fill up a memory bank that you can reminisce about in the future.
Whether it’s sitting on the couch and having a brief conversation or playing together in a tennis league, quality time is a love language that is shared by many. Setting aside focused time with your mate will ensure a happy marriage.

Receiving Gifts
Some mates respond well to visual symbols of love. If you speak this love language, you are more likely to treasure any gift as an expression of love and devotion. People who speak this love language often feel that a lack of gifts represents a lack of love from their mate. Luckily, this love language is one of the easiest to learn.

If you want to become an effective gift giver, many mates will have to learn to change their attitude about money. If you are naturally a spender, you will have no trouble buying gifts for your mate. However, a person who is used to investing and saving their money may have a tough time adjusting to the concept of spending money as an expression of love. These people must understand that you are investing the money not in gifts, but in deepening your relationship with your mate.

The gift of self is an important symbol of love. Sometimes all your mate desires is for someone to be there for them, going through the same trials and experiencing the same things. Your body can become a very powerful physical symbol of love.

These gifts need not to come every day, or even every week. They don’t even need to cost a lot of money. Free, frequent, expensive, or rare, if your mate relates to the language of receiving gifts, any visible sign of your love will leave them feeling happy and secure in your relationship.

Acts of Service
Sometimes simple chores around the house can be an undeniable expression of love. Even simple things like laundry and taking out the trash require some form of planning, time, effort, and energy. Just as Jesus demonstrated when he washed the feet of his disciples, doing humble chores can be a very powerful expression of love and devotion to your mate.

Very often, both pairs in a couple will speak to the Acts of Service Language. However, it is very important to understand what acts of service your mate most appreciates. Even though couples are helping each other around the house, couples will still fight because the are unknowingly communicating with each other in two different dialects. For example, a wife may spend her day washing the cars and walking the dog, but if her husband feels that laundry and dishes are a superior necessity, he may feel unloved, despite the fact that his wife did many other chores throughout the day. It is important to learn your mate’s dialect and work hard to understand what acts of service will show your love.

It is important to do these acts of service out of love and not obligation. A mate who does chores and helps out around the house out of guilt or fear will inevitably not be speaking a language of love, but a language of resentment. It’s important to perform these acts out of the kindness of your heart.

Demonstrating the acts of service can mean stepping out of the stereotypes. Acts of service require both mates to humble themselves into doing some chores and services that aren’t usually expected from their gender. However, these little sacrifices will mean the world to your mate, and will ensure a happy relationship.

Physical Touch
Many mates feel the most loved when they receive physical contact from their partner. For a mate who speaks this love language loudly, physical touch can make or break the relationship.

Sexual intercourse makes many mates feel secure and loved in a marriage. However, it is only one dialect of physical touch. Many parts of the body are extremely sensitive to stimulation. It is important to discover how your partner not only physically responds but also psychologically responds to these touches.

It is important to learn how your mate speaks the physical touch language. Some touches are irritating and uncomfortable for your mate. Take the time to learn the touches your mate likes. They can be big acts, such as back massages or lovemaking, or little acts such as touches on the cheek or a hand on the shoulder. It’s important to learn how your mate responds to touch. That is how you will make the most of this love language.

All marriages will experience crisis. In these cases, physical touch is very important. In a crisis situation, a hug can communicate an immense amount of love for that person. A person whose primary love language is physical touch would much rather have you hold them and be silent than offer any advice.

It is important to remember that this love language is different for everyone. What type of touch makes you feel secure is not necessarily what will make your partner happy. It is important to learn each other’s dialects. That way you can make the most of your hugging, kissing, and other physical contacts.

http://www.fivelovelanguages.com/learn.html
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Post by _Michelle » Fri Apr 18, 2008 6:29 pm

Wow, Darin, that was good!

Ron, I'll be praying for you and your wife.
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Post by _darin-houston » Fri Apr 18, 2008 7:21 pm

Another thing strikes me to point out:

a wise person once told me: "Be for your spouse that thing they can't hire anyone else to be if money were truly not an object. For example, for a guy, he can hire a nanny, a maid, a tennis partner, a driver, (law and morality aside, even a prostitute), etc. But, he can't pay someone to honestly share thoughts and dreams and fears, and to truly and freely enjoy his company and do thankless favors for him without expectation of anything in return."
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Post by _Rae » Fri Apr 18, 2008 8:42 pm

take the kids and see if she wants to take a night class or go to a womens' bible study.
This is the reason I was asking about how old your kids were. If she is at home all day with them, it can feel a little overwhelming and sometimes she might feel like she doesn't even have time to think. I know that for me, sometimes (most of the time?) I am in such a "mommy mode" that I can forget who I am as a person and what strengths and ideas the Lord has given me.

Along these lines, here are some ways that I have felt loved and appreciated and valued by my husband:

It is such a blessing when my husband takes the kids and says, "Hey, you want to go to Starbucks by yourself tonight?" There was a time where it was a weekly thing, and wow! How refreshed I was just having some time to think without eight million things going on at once!

It is also a blessing when he gives me some time to take a bath and read without any distractions. Again, with little kids, sometimes a woman's love language is quality time ALONE! :) (And I say that generally being an extrovert).

Like Darin said, when my husband does the dishes or helps with the house, that communicates volumes to me. And it communicates to me that he really understands and appreciates what I do at the house during the day with the kids.

This might seem silly, but it makes me feel loved (I don't think loved is the right word, but I'll use it anyway) when he'll sit with me and watch a cheesy girly movie (and not complain about it or make fun of it too much!) :)

There are many other things, but those are the things that came to mind first.

I would also really recommend the book "For Men Only." There is also a "For Women Only" that is amazing as well. Ryan and I had been married for several years when we read those books and we were SHOCKED at some of the things that we didn't know about the opposite sex. I would read something and say, "Ryan, is that true?" And he would say something to the effect of, "Of course! I thought that was obvious!" They were very eye opening books for both of us.

-Rachel
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Post by _darin-houston » Fri Apr 18, 2008 9:44 pm

It is also a blessing when he gives me some time to take a bath and read without any distractions. Again, with little kids, sometimes a woman's love language is quality time ALONE! (And I say that generally being an extrovert).
I don't know about your church, but ours has a Wednesday night dinner and child care for service and bible study and prayer meetings. For a while, I would leave work early, drop by and pick up my son, and take him to church Wednesday night alone for a bible study and dinner -- not only was it a break for my wife, it was a special time for me and my son together (and I got to participate in a men's prayer group for a while). We ALL looked forward to those nights.
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Post by _livingink » Mon Apr 21, 2008 7:30 pm

I'd also suggest that you ask if she would study the bible with you rather than you studying by yourself so much. You'll probably find the experience quite helpful.
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