Greg Koukl Napkin Argument for The Trinity

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Re: Greg Koukl Napkin Argument for The Trinity

Post by darinhouston » Thu Dec 25, 2014 2:43 pm

Koukl wrote:Remember, you don’t have to master every counter-argument to every verse thrown at you. All you need is one unequivocal textual proof to make your case.
I think this is the root of most bad theology. If your position isn't consistent with and answer the questions raised by all of Scripture, it isn't likely to be correct.

Also, he makes the huge jump (without even recognizing it) that Jesus and the Word are the same thing or the argument from very loud silence that thought the Jews balked at much Concerning Christianity on lesser matters there isn't even a single sniff of shock at a doctrine at least seemingly in direct conflict with their defining belief of monotheism.


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Re: Greg Koukl Napkin Argument for The Trinity

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Re: Greg Koukl Napkin Argument for The Trinity

Post by darinhouston » Fri Dec 26, 2014 9:05 am

Now you're equating the Word with the Christ.


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Re: Greg Koukl Napkin Argument for The Trinity

Post by darinhouston » Fri Dec 26, 2014 8:41 pm

Like Ephesians 3:9?


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Re: Greg Koukl Napkin Argument for The Trinity

Post by Singalphile » Mon Feb 09, 2015 11:41 pm

I've been listening to some David Bercot lectures, including What the Early Christians Believed About The Trinity. (As Bercot admits up front, the lecture is misnamed; it's really a discussion about the divinity of Jesus, and he doesn't address the Holy Spirit at all.)

He says that the early Christian theologians' view, in general, can be summed up by the Nicene Creed.

Paidion already said what I was going to point out: "The original Nicene Creed affirms that the Son was "begotten before all ages": ...."

That is to say, the Nicene creed specifically says that Christ was "begotten, not made." So that might throw a little wrench into the napkin argument.

Another little bit of an issue is that the egeneto word has a pretty wide variety of meaning.

Hmm ... well, someday we'll understand, I suppose.
... that all may honor the Son just as they honor the Father. John 5:23

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