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Did you know liberals aren’t as happy as conservatives? Of course, you did. How could you not know it after listening to them incessantly wail, gripe, whine, and complain about everything? But, let’s bring….drumroll, please — the science! First, here’s the Pew Research comparison between Republicans and Democrats:

The survey, released this week, points out several disparities based on lifestyle, beliefs and political persuasion:

* Republicans are happier than Democrats.
* People who worship frequently are happier than those who don’t.
* The rich are happier than the poor.
* Whites and Hispanics are happier than blacks.
* Married people are happier than the unmarried…

About 45 percent of Republicans said they were very happy, compared with 30 percent of Democrats. Republicans have been happier in surveys going back to 1972, the Pew study notes.

Here’s more from Arthur Brooks:

In 2004, people who said they were conservative or very conservative were nearly twice as likely to say they were very happy as people who called themselves liberal or very liberal (44 percent versus 25 percent). Conservatives were only half as likely to say they were not too happy (9 versus 18 percent). Political conservatives were also far less likely than liberals to express maladjustment to their adult lives. For example, adults on the political right were only half as likely as those on the left to say, “at times, I think I am no good at all.” They were also less likely to say they were dissatisfied with themselves, that they were inclined to feel like a failure, or to be pessimistic about their futures. Further, a 2007 survey found that 58 percent of Republicans rated their mental health as “excellent,” versus 43 percent of political independents and just 38 percent of Democrats.

Want to be a miserable person? Be a liberal. Want to have a happy life? Be a conservative. Why is that the case? There are a number of reasons for it.

1) Conservatives believe in personal responsibility: One of the tragic facts of life is that nobody cares as much about you as you do. That’s why, if you want to have a good life and be a happy person, you’re going to have to take care of it yourself. Conservatives get this. Liberals? Not so much.

Liberals spend a lot of time playing the victim and trying to come up with ways to get someone else to fix their lives. “Well, if the government forced some rich guy to give me more of his money, then all my problems would be solved! If our society could just make this change, then we could all dance in the moonlight with faeries and unicorns! If the government just added one more program, then we could teach the world to sing in perfect harmony, hold it in our arms, and keep it company!”

One of the biggest keys to happiness is accepting that if you want to be happy, you need to take personal responsibility for everything in your life so you can do something about it. On the other hand, you want to be unhappy? Act like liberals and expect other people to show up and fix your problems.

2) Conservatives are more religious than liberals: There’s a school of thought, largely embraced by liberals, that says religion is an archaic, largely arbitrary set of rules that do little more than keep you from doing all the “fun stuff” in life. That view leads to not taking your religious views very seriously at best and atheism or agnosticism at worst.

On the other hand, here’s an alternate view, one that many conservatives hold. Religion, particularly Christianity, isn’t out-of-date or arbitrary at all. Moreover, religion doesn’t keep you from doing all the “fun stuff” so much as it keeps you from committing sins that may be fun for a season, but ultimately end in sorrow.

We’re right, they’re wrong and that’s another big reason why so many of us are happy and so many of them are not.

3) Conservatives are more likely than liberals to get married: Despite everything you hear about divorce and unhappy marriages, people who are married are much more likely to be happy than those who are single:

In 2004, 42 percent of married Americans said they were very happy. Only 23 percent of never-married people said this, as well as 20 percent of those who were widowed, 17 percent of divorced people, and 11 percent of those who were separated (but not divorced) from their spouses. Married people were six times more likely to say they were very happy than they were to say they were not too happy.

Conservatives tend to place a considerably higher value on marriage than liberals do. To conservatives, marriage is the bedrock of society, whereas to liberals, it’s not all that important. This is one of the reasons we have huge battles over gay marriage. Conservatives think it’s dangerous for society to tinker with such an important tradition while liberals don’t think marriage is all that valuable. It’s also why “conservatives are twice as likely to be married.”

Twice as likely? Why, it’s almost as if conservatives believe all that stuff they’re saying about marriage being the “bedrock of our society.” Too bad liberals don’t look at it the same way. They’d be happier people.

4) Liberalism just doesn’t work very well in the real world: If you spend your whole life advocating ideas that make people’s lives worse, that fall apart at the first touch of reality, and that rely on a government that’s inevitably slow, stupid, and ineffective, it’s not going to be conducive to your happiness. Liberal policies are candy-coated rat poison that may appear appealing at first, but inevitably do a lot of damage to everyone impacted by them. That’s what happens when you back political policies based on how they make you feel about yourself.

Conservatives don’t have that problem. We support policies based on what works. The better you understand the world and how it works, the easier life is going to be for you. On the other hand, if you spend your whole life trying to slam a square peg into a round hole, it’s not likely to lead to contentment.

5) Liberalism has turned into an extraordinarily harsh, divisive, angry ideology: As a political philosophy, liberalism is centered around hatred and divisiveness. Liberals don’t promote their ideas so much as they try to turn people against those who get in the way of their ideas.

Liberals lie to minorities and tell them that conservatives hate them, they tell women that men hate them, they tell the poor they should hate the rich. They try to pit the successful against the unsuccessful, the workers against the corporations — and they regularly talk about their own country like it is one of the most godawful places on earth. That means liberals are, at best, extraordinarily cynical people who’re willing to manipulate people for political gain — and at worst, it means that they believe all this nonsense, which would make the world seem to be a very unpleasant place indeed. If you spend your life seething over a litany of grievances you’ve created from scratch in your own head, then you’re probably going to be an Eeyore instead of floating on Cloud 9.

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Did you know liberals aren’t as happy as conservatives? Of course, you did. How could you not know it after listening to them incessantly wail, gripe, whine, and complain about everything? But, let’s bring….drumroll, please — the science! First, here’s the Pew Research comparison between Republicans and Democrats:

The survey, released this week, points out several disparities based on lifestyle, beliefs and political persuasion:

* Republicans are happier than Democrats.
* People who worship frequently are happier than those who don’t.
* The rich are happier than the poor.
* Whites and Hispanics are happier than blacks.
* Married people are happier than the unmarried…

About 45 percent of Republicans said they were very happy, compared with 30 percent of Democrats. Republicans have been happier in surveys going back to 1972, the Pew study notes.

Here’s more from Arthur Brooks:

In 2004, people who said they were conservative or very conservative were nearly twice as likely to say they were very happy as people who called themselves liberal or very liberal (44 percent versus 25 percent). Conservatives were only half as likely to say they were not too happy (9 versus 18 percent). Political conservatives were also far less likely than liberals to express maladjustment to their adult lives. For example, adults on the political right were only half as likely as those on the left to say, “at times, I think I am no good at all.” They were also less likely to say they were dissatisfied with themselves, that they were inclined to feel like a failure, or to be pessimistic about their futures. Further, a 2007 survey found that 58 percent of Republicans rated their mental health as “excellent,” versus 43 percent of political independents and just 38 percent of Democrats.

Want to be a miserable person? Be a liberal. Want to have a happy life? Be a conservative. Why is that the case? There are a number of reasons for it.

1) Conservatives believe in personal responsibility: One of the tragic facts of life is that nobody cares as much about you as you do. That’s why, if you want to have a good life and be a happy person, you’re going to have to take care of it yourself. Conservatives get this. Liberals? Not so much.

Liberals spend a lot of time playing the victim and trying to come up with ways to get someone else to fix their lives. “Well, if the government forced some rich guy to give me more of his money, then all my problems would be solved! If our society could just make this change, then we could all dance in the moonlight with faeries and unicorns! If the government just added one more program, then we could teach the world to sing in perfect harmony, hold it in our arms, and keep it company!”

One of the biggest keys to happiness is accepting that if you want to be happy, you need to take personal responsibility for everything in your life so you can do something about it. On the other hand, you want to be unhappy? Act like liberals and expect other people to show up and fix your problems.

2) Conservatives are more religious than liberals: There’s a school of thought, largely embraced by liberals, that says religion is an archaic, largely arbitrary set of rules that do little more than keep you from doing all the “fun stuff” in life. That view leads to not taking your religious views very seriously at best and atheism or agnosticism at worst.

On the other hand, here’s an alternate view, one that many conservatives hold. Religion, particularly Christianity, isn’t out-of-date or arbitrary at all. Moreover, religion doesn’t keep you from doing all the “fun stuff” so much as it keeps you from committing sins that may be fun for a season, but ultimately end in sorrow.

We’re right, they’re wrong and that’s another big reason why so many of us are happy and so many of them are not.

3) Conservatives are more likely than liberals to get married: Despite everything you hear about divorce and unhappy marriages, people who are married are much more likely to be happy than those who are single:

In 2004, 42 percent of married Americans said they were very happy. Only 23 percent of never-married people said this, as well as 20 percent of those who were widowed, 17 percent of divorced people, and 11 percent of those who were separated (but not divorced) from their spouses. Married people were six times more likely to say they were very happy than they were to say they were not too happy.

Conservatives tend to place a considerably higher value on marriage than liberals do. To conservatives, marriage is the bedrock of society, whereas to liberals, it’s not all that important. This is one of the reasons we have huge battles over gay marriage. Conservatives think it’s dangerous for society to tinker with such an important tradition while liberals don’t think marriage is all that valuable. It’s also why “conservatives are twice as likely to be married.”

Twice as likely? Why, it’s almost as if conservatives believe all that stuff they’re saying about marriage being the “bedrock of our society.” Too bad liberals don’t look at it the same way. They’d be happier people.

4) Liberalism just doesn’t work very well in the real world: If you spend your whole life advocating ideas that make people’s lives worse, that fall apart at the first touch of reality, and that rely on a government that’s inevitably slow, stupid, and ineffective, it’s not going to be conducive to your happiness. Liberal policies are candy-coated rat poison that may appear appealing at first, but inevitably do a lot of damage to everyone impacted by them. That’s what happens when you back political policies based on how they make you feel about yourself.

Conservatives don’t have that problem. We support policies based on what works. The better you understand the world and how it works, the easier life is going to be for you. On the other hand, if you spend your whole life trying to slam a square peg into a round hole, it’s not likely to lead to contentment.

5) Liberalism has turned into an extraordinarily harsh, divisive, angry ideology: As a political philosophy, liberalism is centered around hatred and divisiveness. Liberals don’t promote their ideas so much as they try to turn people against those who get in the way of their ideas.

Liberals lie to minorities and tell them that conservatives hate them, they tell women that men hate them, they tell the poor they should hate the rich. They try to pit the successful against the unsuccessful, the workers against the corporations — and they regularly talk about their own country like it is one of the most godawful places on earth. That means liberals are, at best, extraordinarily cynical people who’re willing to manipulate people for political gain — and at worst, it means that they believe all this nonsense, which would make the world seem to be a very unpleasant place indeed. If you spend your life seething over a litany of grievances you’ve created from scratch in your own head, then you’re probably going to be an Eeyore instead of floating on Cloud 9.

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Did you know liberals aren’t as happy as conservatives? Of course, you did. How could you not know it after listening to them incessantly wail, gripe, whine, and complain about everything? But, let’s bring….drumroll, please — the science! First, here’s the Pew Research comparison between Republicans and Democrats:

The survey, released this week, points out several disparities based on lifestyle, beliefs and political persuasion:

* Republicans are happier than Democrats.
* People who worship frequently are happier than those who don’t.
* The rich are happier than the poor.
* Whites and Hispanics are happier than blacks.
* Married people are happier than the unmarried…

About 45 percent of Republicans said they were very happy, compared with 30 percent of Democrats. Republicans have been happier in surveys going back to 1972, the Pew study notes.

Here’s more from Arthur Brooks:

In 2004, people who said they were conservative or very conservative were nearly twice as likely to say they were very happy as people who called themselves liberal or very liberal (44 percent versus 25 percent). Conservatives were only half as likely to say they were not too happy (9 versus 18 percent). Political conservatives were also far less likely than liberals to express maladjustment to their adult lives. For example, adults on the political right were only half as likely as those on the left to say, “at times, I think I am no good at all.” They were also less likely to say they were dissatisfied with themselves, that they were inclined to feel like a failure, or to be pessimistic about their futures. Further, a 2007 survey found that 58 percent of Republicans rated their mental health as “excellent,” versus 43 percent of political independents and just 38 percent of Democrats.

Want to be a miserable person? Be a liberal. Want to have a happy life? Be a conservative. Why is that the case? There are a number of reasons for it.

1) Conservatives believe in personal responsibility: One of the tragic facts of life is that nobody cares as much about you as you do. That’s why, if you want to have a good life and be a happy person, you’re going to have to take care of it yourself. Conservatives get this. Liberals? Not so much.

Liberals spend a lot of time playing the victim and trying to come up with ways to get someone else to fix their lives. “Well, if the government forced some rich guy to give me more of his money, then all my problems would be solved! If our society could just make this change, then we could all dance in the moonlight with faeries and unicorns! If the government just added one more program, then we could teach the world to sing in perfect harmony, hold it in our arms, and keep it company!”

One of the biggest keys to happiness is accepting that if you want to be happy, you need to take personal responsibility for everything in your life so you can do something about it. On the other hand, you want to be unhappy? Act like liberals and expect other people to show up and fix your problems.

2) Conservatives are more religious than liberals: There’s a school of thought, largely embraced by liberals, that says religion is an archaic, largely arbitrary set of rules that do little more than keep you from doing all the “fun stuff” in life. That view leads to not taking your religious views very seriously at best and atheism or agnosticism at worst.

On the other hand, here’s an alternate view, one that many conservatives hold. Religion, particularly Christianity, isn’t out-of-date or arbitrary at all. Moreover, religion doesn’t keep you from doing all the “fun stuff” so much as it keeps you from committing sins that may be fun for a season, but ultimately end in sorrow.

We’re right, they’re wrong and that’s another big reason why so many of us are happy and so many of them are not.

3) Conservatives are more likely than liberals to get married: Despite everything you hear about divorce and unhappy marriages, people who are married are much more likely to be happy than those who are single:

In 2004, 42 percent of married Americans said they were very happy. Only 23 percent of never-married people said this, as well as 20 percent of those who were widowed, 17 percent of divorced people, and 11 percent of those who were separated (but not divorced) from their spouses. Married people were six times more likely to say they were very happy than they were to say they were not too happy.

Conservatives tend to place a considerably higher value on marriage than liberals do. To conservatives, marriage is the bedrock of society, whereas to liberals, it’s not all that important. This is one of the reasons we have huge battles over gay marriage. Conservatives think it’s dangerous for society to tinker with such an important tradition while liberals don’t think marriage is all that valuable. It’s also why “conservatives are twice as likely to be married.”

Twice as likely? Why, it’s almost as if conservatives believe all that stuff they’re saying about marriage being the “bedrock of our society.” Too bad liberals don’t look at it the same way. They’d be happier people.

4) Liberalism just doesn’t work very well in the real world: If you spend your whole life advocating ideas that make people’s lives worse, that fall apart at the first touch of reality, and that rely on a government that’s inevitably slow, stupid, and ineffective, it’s not going to be conducive to your happiness. Liberal policies are candy-coated rat poison that may appear appealing at first, but inevitably do a lot of damage to everyone impacted by them. That’s what happens when you back political policies based on how they make you feel about yourself.

Conservatives don’t have that problem. We support policies based on what works. The better you understand the world and how it works, the easier life is going to be for you. On the other hand, if you spend your whole life trying to slam a square peg into a round hole, it’s not likely to lead to contentment.

5) Liberalism has turned into an extraordinarily harsh, divisive, angry ideology: As a political philosophy, liberalism is centered around hatred and divisiveness. Liberals don’t promote their ideas so much as they try to turn people against those who get in the way of their ideas.

Liberals lie to minorities and tell them that conservatives hate them, they tell women that men hate them, they tell the poor they should hate the rich. They try to pit the successful against the unsuccessful, the workers against the corporations — and they regularly talk about their own country like it is one of the most godawful places on earth. That means liberals are, at best, extraordinarily cynical people who’re willing to manipulate people for political gain — and at worst, it means that they believe all this nonsense, which would make the world seem to be a very unpleasant place indeed. If you spend your life seething over a litany of grievances you’ve created from scratch in your own head, then you’re probably going to be an Eeyore instead of floating on Cloud 9.

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Re: Is "Christian-Democrat" an oxymoron? ~ Video

Post by steve7150 » Thu Sep 22, 2016 8:13 am

I believe in equal opportunity for all. In what do you believe?







I agree and in the U.S., public school is free through High School and then you can attend a Community College for the first 2 years. After this you now can use Online College for the last two years and the cost is rapidly dropping. So the vast majority of students have access to an inexpensive College education.
But the Dems continually refer to "income inequality" which is something different as far as i understand. That's income and asset redistribution which is Socialism/Communism. The Dems always offer the poor man a fish but they never seem to be willing to teach him to fish because that would make him independent and harder to control. From my perspective the Dems are as far from a biblical party as you can possibly get and when you add on "A women's right to choose to kill an unborn baby" which has led to 50 million abortions just in this country, i think it's clear that any overlap between the Democratic party and the Bible is purely coincidental.

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Re: Is "Christian-Democrat" an oxymoron? ~ Video

Post by Paidion » Thu Sep 22, 2016 11:41 am

Thrombomodulin wrote:I do not believe in equal opportunity at all
Do you mean that you do not believe that equal opportunity for all presently exists?
Or do you mean that you do not believe that there ought to be equal opportunity for all?

If the latter, then I am shocked! Image

If the latter, then I must declare that you are the first person I have ever encountered who openly affirms that he holds such a belief!
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Re: Is "Christian-Democrat" an oxymoron? ~ Video

Post by thrombomodulin » Thu Sep 22, 2016 4:34 pm

Paidion,

I guess I am the first person then, for the answer is the latter. I hold the view that there should not be any law or regulation that would impose a requirement that men should be granted equal opportunities.

Of course, the first statement you made is obviously true as men are born into this world with unequal levels of strength, mental ability, etc,.

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Re: Is "Christian-Democrat" an oxymoron? ~ Video

Post by mattrose » Thu Sep 22, 2016 6:57 pm

My thoughts on the original question...

It is not self-contradictory for someone to be both a Christian and a democrat

Most Christians would agree that the stated goals of the democratic party have a lot in common with Kingdom goals (compassion for the last, the least, and the lost).

Political disagreement usually arises not from different stated-goals, but from dispute about the means to achieve such goals (are poor people best helped by getting government handouts?).

The possibility of being simultaneously Christian and democrat is also a reality for some b/c of factors like:
1) the lack of thoughtfulness often put into such decisions (especially amongst immature believers)*
2) the desire to be a change agent in a flawed institution rather than flee over some disagreements

* I am not here saying that all Christian-democrats are immature... only that it is true that some Christian-democrats never really thought through their political affiliation and, if they did, might change parties. The same could be said for Republicans.

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Post by Paidion » Thu Sep 22, 2016 7:51 pm

Pete wrote:Of course, the first statement you made is obviously true as men are born into this world with unequal levels of strength, mental ability, etc,.
That's not what makes the first statement true. Even people with lesser, strength and mental ability should have equal opportunity.
A weaker person should have the right to apply for job that requires physical strength. He may not be capable of doing the job, and thus be rejected. But he should have equal opportunity in being permitted to apply. The same with a person with lesser mental ability. He may not be capable of doing work that requires high intelligence. But he should not be prevented from applying, and thus have equal opportunity with everyone else who applies.

Here is the Merriam-Webster definition of "equal opportunity employer":
an employer who agrees not to discriminate against any employee or job applicant because of race, color, religion, national origin, sex, physical or mental disability, or age
Not believing that there ought to be equal opportunity is tantamount to believing it's okay for an employer to discriminate. For example, "I won't hire you because you're black" or "I won't hire you because you're a woman" or "I won't hire you because you're a Catholic," or "I won't hire you because you're too old," etc. An employer should refuse to hire someone only if he or she is incapable of doing the job.
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Post by morbo3000 » Thu Sep 22, 2016 10:28 pm

Thanks for sharing the Pew Research story Dwight. It helps me understand better where you are coming from.

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Post by thrombomodulin » Fri Sep 23, 2016 6:56 am

Paidion wrote:Not believing that there ought to be equal opportunity is tantamount to believing it's okay for an employer to discriminate. For example, ....
Yes, it is tantamount to those things. My view is that all men should be free to form all their relationships on a voluntary, rather the coerced basis. Therefore, it is my opinion that there should be no law prohibiting discrimination.

What is your opinion about whether employees ought to be allowed to discriminate against potential employers?

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Post by dwight92070 » Fri Sep 23, 2016 11:27 am

Do all people get an equal opportunity to become U. S. citizens? Are equal opportunities available for a person born in North Korea? I agree that all persons should get an equal opportunity when applying for a job (even though many don't), but not everyone will have an equal opportunity in life generally, as far as their circumstances and environment goes. Of course God never promised that we would, but He does give each of us the equal opportunity to be saved and to answer our prayers.

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