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Flood & Whale ~ Fact or Tall Tale?
Posted: Sat Apr 21, 2018 9:33 pm
by Biblegate
Noah's Flood & Jonah's Whale -- are they fact or fish tales? Is there evidence that those Biblical accounts are more than just ancient tall tales? Bible teacher Steve Gregg, host of The Narrow Path radio program, answers that question for a curious caller.
https://youtu.be/Q1Yfw1p6wEs
Re: Flood & Whale ~ Fact or Tall Tale?
Posted: Thu May 24, 2018 12:23 am
by grayham
of course it is fact and real as jesus spoke about it.and the word of god is truth.without error.
Re: Flood & Whale ~ Fact or Tall Tale?
Posted: Fri May 25, 2018 7:25 pm
by Paidion
grayham wrote:of course it is fact and real as jesus spoke about it.and the word of god is truth.without error.
Well... it isn't a fact that Jonah was swallowed by a WHALE. Whales do not have the mouth construction to swallow a man.
Indeed, the word "whale" is not found in the Bible except in the King James and related versions, where such translations state in Matthew 12:40 that Jonah was in the belly of the whale.
However, modern versions, including the New King James Version, do not translate the Greek phrase "του κητος" as "of the whale." The NKJV translates the phrase as "of the great fish."
And I do agree that it is a historical fact that Jonah was swallowed by a great fish.
When you say, "the word of god is truth.without error," you should make sure you are not talking merely about the King James Version of the Bible.
Re: Flood & Whale ~ Fact or Tall Tale?
Posted: Sat May 26, 2018 2:28 am
by grayham
you should read the verse it says a great fish not a whale you assume its a whale.
Re: Flood & Whale ~ Fact or Tall Tale?
Posted: Sat May 26, 2018 7:17 am
by TK
In the KJV version of Mt: 12:40 says "whale."
Re: Flood & Whale ~ Fact or Tall Tale?
Posted: Sun May 27, 2018 5:18 am
by grayham
in nkjv it ssys huge fish.also in the greek.i guess your a only klv person then.
Re: Flood & Whale ~ Fact or Tall Tale?
Posted: Sun May 27, 2018 6:36 am
by TK
i guess your a only klv person then
Holy mackeral no! Not sure where you got that idea. Some folks- atheists mostly- use the KJV version of Jesus's words (that Jonah was swallowed by a whale) to try to show that Jesus didn't know that a whale couldn't swallow a man.
I have no problem believing that Jonah was swallowed by some sort of a very large sea creature. If so, he was supernaturally kept alive for three days, I suspect.
Re: Flood & Whale ~ Fact or Tall Tale?
Posted: Sun May 27, 2018 10:26 pm
by Paidion
Graham seems to have a reading problem.
I wrote:Well... it isn't a fact that Jonah was swallowed by a WHALE. Whales do not have the mouth construction to swallow a man.
Indeed, the word "whale" is not found in the Bible except in the King James and related versions, where such translations state in Matthew 12:40 that Jonah was in the belly of the whale.
However, modern versions, including the New King James Version, do not translate the Greek phrase "του κητος" as "of the whale." The NKJV translates the phrase as "of the great fish."
And I do agree that it is a historical fact that Jonah was swallowed by a great fish.
And immediately Grayham wrote: you should read the verse it says a great fish not a whale you assume its a whale.
How old are you, Graham?