"Educated people are more likely to be atheists."

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Re: "Educated people are more likely to be atheists."

Post by Paidion » Thu Jun 25, 2015 2:48 pm

It seems almost a law of human nature, that those who are most critical of others are the most sensitive to any criticism of themselves. Perhaps this is indicative of low self-esteem, and their own over-critical spirit is a form of self-defence.
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Re: "Educated people are more likely to be atheists."

Post by steve » Sun Jun 28, 2015 11:27 am

For the sake maintaining the spiritual quality of this forum, I have taken the liberty of deleting some of the more recent posts. The deleted posts were not all offensive, by any means, but the conversation got seriously derailed. I cannot personally see any reason why dizerner should have become offended, since he was not abused—only corrected about the usage of a particular word. I agree with others that he misunderstood the criticism and reacted as if he was being attacked. In any case, my apologies to any whose posts were deleted. I received private complaints about the direction the thread was going, and I suggest that it return to the subject of the original post.

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Re: "Educated people are more likely to be atheists."

Post by Jose » Sun Jun 28, 2015 12:40 pm

I apologize to everyone for any part that I may have had in steering this conversation in an unfruitful direction.

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Re: "Educated people are more likely to be atheists."

Post by TheEditor » Sun Jun 28, 2015 3:18 pm

I too apologize for my occasionally intractable nature. :oops:

Regards, Brenden.
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Re: "Educated people are more likely to be atheists."

Post by steve » Sun Jun 28, 2015 4:17 pm

I had no objection to your posts. For some reason, dizerner was not understanding your comments and unnecessariy found them offensive. At least that was my take.

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Re: "Educated people are more likely to be atheists."

Post by dizerner » Sun Jun 28, 2015 6:51 pm

I'm sure you all know I can disagree and debate in love. But when I'm ganged up on and told I confused Solipsism with a Solipsist that's just ridiculously untrue and insulting. I then was told my explanation, that was clear, and anyone should be able to understand, was "digging my heels in" and that honestly is just stupid. I wish all the comments were left up, just so if any rational person passes by, they could immediately see why I was frustrated. However, I apologize for being oversensitive and my harsh comments, however justified I felt, since I acted outside of grace.

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Re: "Educated people are more likely to be atheists."

Post by dizerner » Sun Jun 28, 2015 9:37 pm

Please note that Paidion was the first one to change -ISM to -IST not me.
Paidion wrote:Are the words in parenthes meant to define "solipsism"? If so, they don't. A solipsist is one who believes that only he exists.
If you all want to "jump on" someone for making that mistake, jump on him. He said I defined SOLIPSISM then defined a SOLIPSIST. So I answered within his own framework without a bizarre need to make sure someone knew the difference between -IST and -ISM. All three people that tried to "correct" me were, and still are, completely incorrect. Paidion was challenging my definition of SOLIPSISM not a SOLIPSIST, and that's what I defended, I defended my definition of Solpsism, no where did I make any mistake about the difference between -IST and -ISM but I rather changed Paidion's unwarranted change into -IST back into the framework of ISM. But either way, obviously a Solipsist will always believe Solipsism, so the entire point you are correcting me about is pointless even if you were right (but none of you were right, I never defined -IST as -ISM in any way). I feel stupid defending myself over something this basic, but I don't want anyone under the misapprehension that I somehow got "caught" in anything, because that's ridiculous.

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Re: "Educated people are more likely to be atheists."

Post by TheEditor » Sun Jun 28, 2015 11:59 pm

I can see how you could have taken it that way in the beginning. My frustration only came into play because it appeared to me as though you couldn't see I was making what I said and admitted was a "geeky" grammar distinction between "ism" and "ist" and continued to take exception to the correction. Out of respect for the anonymous that are wearisome of this, I'll respond no more.

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Re: "Educated people are more likely to be atheists."

Post by Homer » Mon Jun 29, 2015 9:24 am

Hey, how about let's all go read 1 Corinthians 13.

Dizerner, I hope you continue here.

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Re: "Educated people are more likely to be atheists."

Post by steve » Mon Jun 29, 2015 10:16 am

How about no more discussion of -ism and -ist, and get back on topic?

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