I heard or at least picked up on maybe your thoughts that "all" punishment is remedial. I know you quoted Origen to defend that.
I am thinking over this and wanted to ask if you wouldn't mind a discussion about this.
I know you're pretty aware of lots of verses, and church fathers and some greek and hebrew.
So, my dilemma here is not if "some" punishment is remedial. Its whether "all" punishment is remedial. you know?
To believe that, my main biblical stumbling-text would be:
(also this may open up a discussion of "Tartarus" or "Abbadon" as differentiated from Hades)“Messengers[angels] also, those who did not keep their own principality, but did leave their proper dwelling, to a judgment of [the] great day, in bonds everlasting(aidios, ἀΐδιος), under darkness He hath kept,” (Jude 6, YLT)
The problem, you see, is in that word I outlined in greek. Its doesn't mean age-during, but "ever-during" or everlasting.
Everywhere else where the English says "eternal" its actually the word "aionios" or "age-during", not "ever-during" or everlasting.
So you could make an argument that there's "remedial hope" for those under "aionios age-during" punishment, but, it doesn't seem like there's any remedial hope under "ever-during" "ἀΐδιος" "bonds". Even those under "aionios" punishment may end up being completely destroyed. I don't know.
But the real hang up for an argument that ALL punishment is remedial is Jude 6 ἀΐδιος bonds.