The Narrow Path Ministries

Hi Darin, No I don't misunderstand what the Arminian believes. I just see that they are inconsistent in this. Again, when salvation turns on man's choice and not God's choice, at the end of the day it is your choice, belief, response, whatever that makes salvation happen for you. The only "sine qua...

Yes, I understand that they would never say that. But what it conveys is accurate: that salvation turns on man's choice, not God's choice. Bob, I think you misunderstand what the Arminian believes -- when I say I believe prevenient grace gives me the ability to "believe," it's not saying I believe ...

Is that not the starting point of the gospel? I know we have our little tracts that start off with "God loves you and has a wonderful plan for your life", but is that where the scriptures start? What are you talking about? Hi Troy, Sorry, I hastily assumed you would be familiar with the reference. ...

I believe the Bible tells us that even though we all deserve death, since all have sinned, Jesus has provided a way to escape death and inherit eternal life, and that all one has to do is repent and believe in Jesus Christ for forgiveness of sins. Doesn't the Bible say that? It does, and we agree. ...

Chiming in. First, as a non-Arminian/non-Calvinist, my understanding of prevenient grace is pretty different from most of the views expressed so far. But I won't I won't go into that now (as I'd need to answer Bob's questions from the first post). Bob, you wrote: The purpose of prevenient grace is ...

The sarcasm continues. But underneath the sarcasm is the plain denial that we all deserve hell for our sins, and that God is obligated to provide the means for us to escape the due punishment for them. Grace evidently can be demanded. Friend, such reasoning only has it's strength by focusing on the...

Bob Hamilton has an essay on the subject here -- http://www.geocities.com/bobesay/original.html though I haven't read it, his other essays are excellent. If his other essays are excellent, this one is the exception. I read the essay, and Hamilton is arguing against federal headship (although he nev...

I don't see how I'm asking the same question. I don't see our state after regeneration as comparable to Adam's either before or after the fall, because we have a dual nature, "simul justus et peccator." I don't see Adam in that way either before or after the fall. (Although we might discuss Adam's ...

Some may have found the question about whether prevenient grace is irresistable somewhat strange. Everyone has agreed that it's certainly resistable. But I would argue that it is irresistable (or effectual, to use a Calvinistic term), on the following basis. We need to consider the purpose of preven...

Yes, you are wrong, because you assume that grace can be demanded. If you want strict "fairness", so that we all get what we deserve, then we all deserve hell for our sin. So do you really want fairness. Yeh, Douglas. Don't you see it? Even though, in your example, your daughter wouldn't have the m...