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by __id_2632
Wed May 21, 2008 8:13 am
Forum: Calvinism, Arminianism & Open Theism
Topic: Losing Salvation
Replies: 20
Views: 13864

Benzoic---How does one lose their salvation and die to sin once for all a second, third, or 20th time when they reclaim salvation? Benzoic, How does one reclaim salvation? According to Scripture, once a person falls away there is no renewing them again, Hebrews 6:3-6 ( KJV ) 3And this will we do, i...
by __id_2632
Tue May 20, 2008 6:58 pm
Forum: Calvinism, Arminianism & Open Theism
Topic: Losing Salvation
Replies: 20
Views: 13864

Re: Losing Salvation

I don't follow these threads, and I do not wish to debate, but when listening to Steve give some valid points in support of a conditional salvation, several concepts came to my mind, which keep me from adopting his view. I would like for someone, maybe Steve, to provide an answer to my question. If...
by __id_2632
Mon May 19, 2008 8:06 pm
Forum: Calvinism, Arminianism & Open Theism
Topic: Dual Natures
Replies: 5
Views: 3161

J.Edwards wrote:
Paidion wrote:
Nor can you prove by scripture that you go to heaven when you die.
Can you clarify what you mean by this Paidion?
Look at the Scriptures and see if you can find one Scripture that says you go to heaven when you die. There are none.
by __id_2632
Mon May 19, 2008 8:02 pm
Forum: Calvinism, Arminianism & Open Theism
Topic: What is Regeneration?
Replies: 12
Views: 7577

"J.Edwards"]Homer, you still can't get around 1 John 5:1. John uses temporal language which again shows that God fathers thus belief. Hi John Edwards, I just recently finished debating an individual on this very verse. There is nothing in this verse that gives a time frame as to which comes first,,...
by __id_2632
Fri May 16, 2008 6:17 pm
Forum: Calvinism, Arminianism & Open Theism
Topic: Prevenient Grace
Replies: 44
Views: 24825

Re: Prevenient Grace

The Articles of Religion of the Methodist Church ( http://www.cresourcei.org/creed25.html ) contains in Article 8 a statement of the necessity of "preventing" or "prevenient" grace: Article 8—Of Free Will The condition of man after the fall of Adam is such that he cannot turn and prepare himself, b...
by __id_2632
Tue May 13, 2008 9:31 pm
Forum: Calvinism, Arminianism & Open Theism
Topic: Regeneration Necessary to Faith in Old Testament Period?
Replies: 26
Views: 12890

John, the same writer explains the "spritual view" of things in salvation in 1 John 5:1. Those who believe that Jesus is the Christ HAS BEEN BORN of God. The "has been born" is passive (which means God did it TO them) and it is in the perfect tense which means it was done PRIOR to the believing. In...
by __id_2632
Sat May 10, 2008 10:36 pm
Forum: Calvinism, Arminianism & Open Theism
Topic: The Doctine of Regeneration in Historic Baptist Teaching
Replies: 7
Views: 4144

Re: The Doctine of Regeneration in Historic Baptist Teaching

Here's an article that discusses the doctrine of regeneration and the change that has occurred in modern times in the SBC (I'm a Southern Baptist Calivinist, which is a bit of a rare breed these days, sadly): http://www.founders.org/journal/fj02/article2.html From the article: In many Christian cir...
by __id_2632
Wed May 07, 2008 8:56 pm
Forum: Calvinism, Arminianism & Open Theism
Topic: Could you minister in a Church like this....
Replies: 9
Views: 5070

I think OSAS is heresy. If the Bible teaches that salvation can be lost, then OSAS is a false doctrine. As I said I think it is a very dangerous doctrine. Of course, almost any doctrine can be "dangerous" if carried to a particular extreme. But I'm not talking about doctrine, I'm talking about fals...
by __id_2632
Tue May 06, 2008 9:34 pm
Forum: Calvinism, Arminianism & Open Theism
Topic: Could you minister in a Church like this....
Replies: 9
Views: 5070

I can see both sides to the dilemma. Notice what 1 Timothy 4 says: 1 Now the Spirit expressly says that in latter times some will depart from the faith , giving heed to deceiving spirits and doctrines of demons, 2 speaking lies in hypocrisy, having their own conscience seared with a hot iron, 3 for...
by __id_2632
Tue May 06, 2008 5:42 pm
Forum: Calvinism, Arminianism & Open Theism
Topic: Could you minister in a Church like this....
Replies: 9
Views: 5070

Re: Could you minister in a Church like this....

A question for you Arminians out there (those who believe that one can potentially walk away from the faith): Could you be an elder (pastor) in a Church where all the other elders (pastors) held to once saved always saved? To clarify, it would be fine for you to believe as you do (and maybe express...

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