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by RND
Tue Mar 10, 2009 11:38 pm
Forum: Eschatology
Topic: Dispensationalism and Historical Premillenialism
Replies: 28
Views: 9167

Re: Dispensationalism and Historical Premillenialism

What say ye? Steve, there is plenty of evidence that many "historical pre-millentists" believe the AC will appear after the seven-year trib and not at the beginning or in the middle of this period. I think where much of the confusion lies is that not all attribute the "tribulation" with the rise of...
by RND
Tue Mar 10, 2009 10:57 pm
Forum: Eschatology
Topic: Dispensationalism and Historical Premillenialism
Replies: 28
Views: 9167

Re: Dispensationalism and Historical Premillenialism

RND, I can't believe that you are failing to see your error. I have to believe that you see it and, out of embarrassment, are trying to conceal it with double-talk (I am choosing this option over the only other one, which is that you are mentally deficient—something that I do not believe to be the ...
by RND
Tue Mar 10, 2009 9:44 pm
Forum: Eschatology
Topic: Dispensationalism and Historical Premillenialism
Replies: 28
Views: 9167

Re: Dispensationalism and Historical Premillenialism

I wrote: Do you believe the antichrist will appear after the tribulation? First, I need to say oops myself. I meant to write "Do you think they believe the antichrist..." RND, you corrected when Christ will appear but didn't correct when the antichrist will appear. That's the point Steve needed to ...
by RND
Tue Mar 10, 2009 9:17 pm
Forum: Eschatology
Topic: Dispensationalism and Historical Premillenialism
Replies: 28
Views: 9167

Re: Dispensationalism and Historical Premillenialism

RND wrote: Historical Premillennialism believes the "antichrist" will appear after a seven year tribulation RND, Steve has addressed this a couple of times. Do you believe the antichrist will appear after the tribulation? I don't find anything in your repsonses that indicates this is the case. In f...
by RND
Tue Mar 10, 2009 8:55 pm
Forum: Eschatology
Topic: Dispensationalism and Historical Premillenialism
Replies: 28
Views: 9167

Re: Dispensationalism and Historical Premillenialism

Steve, one of the reasons why I can't say, "Opps!" is because of obvious statements such as this that you made, " First, while it is true that many historic premillennialists today do believe that Daniel's 70th week is still future , and is to be identified with the tribulation period , this is not ...
by RND
Tue Mar 10, 2009 6:35 pm
Forum: Eschatology
Topic: Dispensationalism and Historical Premillenialism
Replies: 28
Views: 9167

Re: Dispensationalism and Historical Premillenialism

RND, Thanks for clarifying this. I can see how such a mistake can be made. It makes your statement about the historical premillennial position on the appearing of Christ quite accurate. Your statement about the antichrist appearing at the end of the tribulation still does not represent the view of ...
by RND
Tue Mar 10, 2009 3:43 pm
Forum: Eschatology
Topic: Dispensationalism and Historical Premillenialism
Replies: 28
Views: 9167

Re: Dispensationalism and Historical Premillenialism

RND, I wrote, concerning your original post (above): "This may indeed describe the SDA view, but it does not correctly describe historic premillennialism." Then you responded: " Sure it does" , and (strangely) posted the following: End times beliefs among Protestants: Historical Premillennialism: T...
by RND
Tue Mar 10, 2009 3:20 pm
Forum: Eschatology
Topic: Dispensationalism and Historical Premillenialism
Replies: 28
Views: 9167

Re: Dispensationalism and Historical Premillenialism

RND wrote: Historical Premillennialism believes the "antichrist" will appear after a seven year tribulation, and the resurrection comes at the appearing of Christ after a thousand-year reign of the saints, i.e. believers. This may indeed describe the SDA view, but it does not correctly describe his...
by RND
Tue Mar 10, 2009 10:23 am
Forum: Eschatology
Topic: Dispensationalism and Historical Premillenialism
Replies: 28
Views: 9167

Re: Dispensationalism and Historical Premillenialism

Dispensationalism is a belief that God works with man in different ways during different time periods, i.e. God works with the modern, secular nation state of Israel different than He works with other modern, secular nation states. Historical Premillennialism believes the "antichrist" will appear af...
by RND
Mon Mar 09, 2009 9:33 pm
Forum: General Bible Discussion
Topic: When did Jesus realize His deity?
Replies: 14
Views: 7404

Re: When did Jesus realize His deity?

Luk 2:42 And when he was twelve years old , they went up to Jerusalem after the custom of the feast...... Luk 2:46 And it came to pass, that after three days they found him in the temple, sitting in the midst of the doctors, both hearing them, and asking them questions. 47 And all that heard him wer...

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