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by darinhouston
Sun Sep 07, 2008 8:37 am
Forum: Calvinism, Arminianism & Open Theism
Topic: 1 Corinthians 2:14
Replies: 105
Views: 36683

Re: 1 Corinthians 2:14

Sean isn't "begging the question." He's "appealing to authority," which in Aristotelian logic is a logical fallacy. However, in doing theology, that's a fallacy that I think should not be properly applied to the Apostles. I believe seer is stating the following: Arminians have a theology that leads...
by darinhouston
Sat Sep 06, 2008 8:24 pm
Forum: Calvinism, Arminianism & Open Theism
Topic: 1 Corinthians 2:14
Replies: 105
Views: 36683

Re: 1 Corinthians 2:14

A. Receiving / Loving Christ is an autonomous act of your will. B. Receiving / Loving Christ is a supreme good. C. Supremely good acts are meritorious. Here, autonomous meaning that one can accept or reject. A=X; A=Y; therefore Y=Z isn't proper. The logic's a bit flawed here, so it's difficult to t...
by darinhouston
Sat Sep 06, 2008 3:54 pm
Forum: Calvinism, Arminianism & Open Theism
Topic: 1 Corinthians 2:14
Replies: 105
Views: 36683

Re: 1 Corinthians 2:14

Tell me this, Seer -- Do you make choices throughout a given day whether to follow Christ's teaching ? When (if) you do and God blesses your obedience through spiritual growth or otherwise, do you boast in your decision -- do you have a reason to boast ? From where comes my power to obey? From wher...
by darinhouston
Sat Sep 06, 2008 12:34 pm
Forum: Calvinism, Arminianism & Open Theism
Topic: 1 Corinthians 2:14
Replies: 105
Views: 36683

Re: 1 Corinthians 2:14

Tell me this, Seer --

Do you make choices throughout a given day whether to follow Christ's teaching ? When (if) you do and God blesses your obedience through spiritual growth or otherwise, do you boast in your decision -- do you have a reason to boast ?
by darinhouston
Sat Sep 06, 2008 9:44 am
Forum: Calvinism, Arminianism & Open Theism
Topic: 1 Corinthians 2:14
Replies: 105
Views: 36683

Re: 1 Corinthians 2:14

Take a given tree -- God created it -- it brings Him pleasure to see the leaves fall -- do you believe He purposefully directs each leaf to fall and dictates its path or do you think God derives joy from the unexpected - if so, is God powerful enough to "not know" something particular if it brings ...
by darinhouston
Sat Sep 06, 2008 9:43 am
Forum: Calvinism, Arminianism & Open Theism
Topic: 1 Corinthians 2:14
Replies: 105
Views: 36683

Re: 1 Corinthians 2:14

Since you keep saying this, and since I don't see it taught by Scripture but being said to somehow logically follow (from something, I know not what), I believe we need you to provide the syllogism, because I don't see the logical necessity. Did you do something to save yourself - yes or no... Some...
by darinhouston
Sat Sep 06, 2008 8:13 am
Forum: Calvinism, Arminianism & Open Theism
Topic: 1 Corinthians 2:14
Replies: 105
Views: 36683

Re: 1 Corinthians 2:14

Just admit it, it's ALL of God... I do, including the revealed will of God to create free agents with the ability to choose so that He may be glorified even more by their choices. And I do know that it logically follows - if you have a part in your salvation then you have room for boasting. It was ...
by darinhouston
Fri Sep 05, 2008 3:40 pm
Forum: Calvinism, Arminianism & Open Theism
Topic: 1 Corinthians 2:14
Replies: 105
Views: 36683

Re: 1 Corinthians 2:14

There is nothing more in my heart notwithstanding your seeming certitude as to my motivations. It is you that seem intent on ascribing some inherent value to me for having made such a decision, not I. Then tell me Darin, why did you make the right decision when confronted with the gospel, while you...
by darinhouston
Fri Sep 05, 2008 3:37 pm
Forum: Calvinism, Arminianism & Open Theism
Topic: 1 Corinthians 2:14
Replies: 105
Views: 36683

Re: 1 Corinthians 2:14

There is nothing more in my heart notwithstanding your seeming certitude as to my motivations. It is you that seem intent on ascribing some inherent value to me for having made such a decision, not I. Then tell me Darin, why did you make the right decision when confronted with the gospel, while you...
by darinhouston
Fri Sep 05, 2008 3:25 pm
Forum: Calvinism, Arminianism & Open Theism
Topic: 1 Corinthians 2:14
Replies: 105
Views: 36683

Re: 1 Corinthians 2:14

How we view these things, our assumptions if you will, will inform our interpretation of these passages. By the way -- I agree -- your view seems to inform interpretation of passages in a way that ascribes a nature to God that is contrary to His nature as revealed by the entirety of Scripture (yet ...

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