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by darinhouston
Wed Sep 21, 2022 9:59 am
Forum: Fellowship & Worship
Topic: Women in Ministry (and in the home)
Replies: 22
Views: 1248

Re: Women in Ministry (and in the home)

Dizerner, I found what you just posted to be very clear, which is why I can definitely say that I don't agree with it. No one here has said that Paul was sinless. Rather, he was appointed by Jesus to be an apostle and we are called to submit to the teaching of the apostles, in the New Testament, as...
by darinhouston
Sun Sep 18, 2022 8:44 pm
Forum: Fellowship & Worship
Topic: Women in Ministry (and in the home)
Replies: 22
Views: 1248

Re: Women in Ministry (and in the home)

Dizerner, I found what you just posted to be very clear, which is why I can definitely say that I don't agree with it. No one here has said that Paul was sinless. Rather, he was appointed by Jesus to be an apostle and we are called to submit to the teaching of the apostles, in the New Testament, as...
by darinhouston
Sun Sep 18, 2022 4:13 pm
Forum: Fellowship & Worship
Topic: Women in Ministry (and in the home)
Replies: 22
Views: 1248

Re: Women in Ministry (and in the home)

I heard a sermon today on women in ministry - the pastor turned to Ephesians 5 (among others) ("Wives, submit..."). It was a good example on how hard they have to try to twist scripture. After reading v22, he stopped and said but look what it just said immediately prior - it says "submit one to anot...
by darinhouston
Sun Sep 18, 2022 7:26 am
Forum: Fellowship & Worship
Topic: Women in Ministry (and in the home)
Replies: 22
Views: 1248

Re: Women in Ministry (and in the home)

dizerner wrote:
Sun Sep 18, 2022 4:29 am
Paul was just a man, even with his grace and revelation.

To make him sinless is a grave mistake in my opinion, but it's your choice to do so.

The problem with what's "clear" is, actually, people just think things are clear that agree with their view already.
Who said sinless?
by darinhouston
Sat Sep 17, 2022 4:14 pm
Forum: Fellowship & Worship
Topic: Women in Ministry (and in the home)
Replies: 22
Views: 1248

Re: Women in Ministry (and in the home)

Paul freely admitted some things he wrote were his personal preference, it's important to factor that in. Paul was pretty clear when he was stating his personal preference. But even if he was, he was in a much better position as an apostle of Jesus, filled with the Spirit than us to discern what wa...
by darinhouston
Fri Sep 16, 2022 7:22 am
Forum: Fellowship & Worship
Topic: Women in Ministry (and in the home)
Replies: 22
Views: 1248

Re: Women in Ministry (and in the home)

Homer wrote:
Wed Sep 14, 2022 9:56 pm
Hey,
Dwight, Darin, and Homer agree on something! Well, probably many things. :D :D :D :D
Yes, many things. :D
by darinhouston
Wed Sep 14, 2022 7:36 pm
Forum: Fellowship & Worship
Topic: Women in Ministry (and in the home)
Replies: 22
Views: 1248

Re: Women in Ministry (and in the home)

Dwight, I find myself in much agreement with you. I read most of what Witherington wrote but it seemed to me to be mostly human reasoning or what's known as "eisegesis". Be blessed, Homer Same here - he's such a scholar and if he did write his doctoral thesis on this, there must be more behind his ...
by darinhouston
Sun Sep 11, 2022 10:27 pm
Forum: Fellowship & Worship
Topic: Women in Ministry (and in the home)
Replies: 22
Views: 1248

Re: Women in Ministry (and in the home)

jeremiah wrote:
Sun Sep 11, 2022 10:12 pm
How’s about fifteen hours of video and counting sound?

Here’s the playlist for what he’s posted so far.
https://youtube.com/playlist?list=PLZ3 ... Yw3N5pKyLC
Outstanding! This should be good.
by darinhouston
Sun Sep 11, 2022 9:56 pm
Forum: Fellowship & Worship
Topic: Women in Ministry (and in the home)
Replies: 22
Views: 1248

Re: Women in Ministry (and in the home)

I haven't seen his in-depth treatment but found this brief discussion - he seems like a really clear thinker. I look forward to more. I'm hoping he not only expresses his positive view but fully explores and responds to the egalitarian arguments. https://biblethinker.org/how-i-currently-understand-t...
by darinhouston
Sun Sep 11, 2022 3:08 pm
Forum: Fellowship & Worship
Topic: Women in Ministry (and in the home)
Replies: 22
Views: 1248

Women in Ministry (and in the home)

I went and re-listened to Steve's lecture on this but found it a bit less robust than I recall. It is very relevant to the UMC denominational split issues. Superficially, the issues are largely around human sexuality and ordination, marriage, and so forth. But, more fundamentally they are about how ...

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