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by Paidion
Mon Nov 17, 2008 1:48 pm
Forum: General Bible Discussion
Topic: LimitedNegatives?
Replies: 90
Views: 61923

Re: LimitedNegatives?

Here's one that immediately came to mind: Let not yours be the outward adorning with braiding of hair, decoration of gold, and wearing of fine clothing, but let it be the hidden person of the heart with the imperishable jewel of a gentle and quiet spirit, which in God’s sight is very precious. I Pet...
by Paidion
Sun Nov 16, 2008 10:57 pm
Forum: General Questions
Topic: Is the New Jerusalem Bible a Reliable Translation?
Replies: 1
Views: 1384

Re: Is the New Jerusalem Bible a Reliable Translation?

I just checked out a few key verses where other translations are incorrect. The Catholic New Jerusalem Bible was right on in all of them.
by Paidion
Fri Nov 14, 2008 10:37 am
Forum: Eschatology
Topic: "spiritual death" & "eternal separation from God": biblical?
Replies: 17
Views: 5479

Re: "spiritual death" & "eternal separation from God": biblical?

Does it help the discussion in any way to realize that the primary meaning of γενναω is "produce" or "generate" or "beget" and not "give birth ". Jesus said to Nicodemus, "You must be produced again" or "you must be generated again" or "You must be begotten again." In the geneology of Mathew 1, the ...
by Paidion
Thu Nov 13, 2008 7:51 pm
Forum: Eschatology
Topic: "spiritual death" & "eternal separation from God": biblical?
Replies: 17
Views: 5479

Re: "spiritual death" & "eternal separation from God": biblical?

I almost wish I had just done a thread on: "spiritual death": is this concept biblical?
That way, we would have kept things simpler, started at an easier-to-understand beginning.
So why not change the title even now by editing your initial post?
by Paidion
Thu Nov 13, 2008 3:52 pm
Forum: Miscellaneous
Topic: "Salvation In the Old Testament"
Replies: 5
Views: 2120

Re: "Salvation In the Old Testament"

What I am getting at is What were the OT individuals "promised" as mentioned in Hebrews. You probably refer to the promise mentioned in the passage I quoted: Hebrews 11:39,40 It appears to refer to the promise mentioned in verses 8 and 9 of the same chapter: By faith he sojourned in the land of pro...
by Paidion
Thu Nov 13, 2008 11:24 am
Forum: General
Topic: Jesus' skin color
Replies: 13
Views: 6415

Re: Jesus' skin color

Another point that might be made to the man, is that whites aren't the only ones responsible for the fact that slaves were brought over from Africa to America. Many of them had been captured by other black Africans and sold to the white slavers.
by Paidion
Thu Nov 13, 2008 11:06 am
Forum: Views of Hell
Topic: I Timothy 4:10 and Universal Reconciliation
Replies: 25
Views: 11013

Re: I Timothy 4:10 and Universal Reconciliation

Thanks, Todd. One other point that came to mind. There are many people (and I personally know of a couple of cases) who on their death bed curse God and express much anger and hatred toward God and toward all people. They die in total rebellion. It seems inconceivable that, immediately after their d...
by Paidion
Thu Nov 13, 2008 12:34 am
Forum: Views of Hell
Topic: I Timothy 4:10 and Universal Reconciliation
Replies: 25
Views: 11013

Re: I Timothy 4:10 and Universal Reconciliation

Todd, you still believe the judgments of God are for this life only? Do not our observations reveal that many in this life go on sinning grievously throughout their whole lives with no apparent judgments upon them? Job's friends believed Job's suffering was the result of his sin, but Job know that m...
by Paidion
Thu Nov 13, 2008 12:24 am
Forum: Eschatology
Topic: "spiritual death" & "eternal separation from God": biblical?
Replies: 17
Views: 5479

Re: "spiritual death" & "eternal separation from God": biblical?

Rick asked: Why don't other translations translate it like this? I don't know why, but I do know that a few do. The Concordant translation has it: Yet from the tree of the knowledge of good and evil, you are not to be eating from it, for in the day you eat from it, to die shall you be dying ." Gn 2...
by Paidion
Thu Nov 13, 2008 12:05 am
Forum: Miscellaneous
Topic: "Salvation In the Old Testament"
Replies: 5
Views: 2120

Re: "Salvation In the Old Testament"

And all these, having obtained a good testimony through faith, did not receive the promise, God having provided something better for us, that they should not be made perfect apart from us. Hebrews 11:39,40

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