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- Mon Apr 03, 2017 6:32 pm
- Forum: Theology Proper, Christology, Pneumatology
- Topic: God is Love and the Trinity
- Replies: 60
- Views: 29671
Re: God is Love and the Trinity
21centpilgrim, I like your comment. I'm not sure if I believe in progressive revelation or not (although I used to). I guess you could say Jesus revealed things about God that previous prophets hadn't, but I think you could say that of every prophet. So I suppose I see revelation as more cumulative ...
- Mon Apr 03, 2017 3:17 pm
- Forum: Theology Proper, Christology, Pneumatology
- Topic: God is Love and the Trinity
- Replies: 60
- Views: 29671
Re: God is Love and the Trinity
mattrose, that makes perfect sense, and I probably would have agreed with your view a few years ago when I was more in alignment with guys like Oord, Cavey, and Zahnd.
- Mon Apr 03, 2017 11:35 am
- Forum: Theology Proper, Christology, Pneumatology
- Topic: God is Love and the Trinity
- Replies: 60
- Views: 29671
Re: God is Love and the Trinity
Here's an appropriate quotation from "God the Almighty: Power, Wisdom, Holiness, Love"by Donald G. Bloesch: "P. T. Forsyth reacted sharply against the deemphasis of God's holiness in liberal theology: 'The love of God has ousted the glory of God, and the grace has been declared at the cost of the ho...
- Mon Apr 03, 2017 10:45 am
- Forum: Theology Proper, Christology, Pneumatology
- Topic: God is Love and the Trinity
- Replies: 60
- Views: 29671
Re: God is Love and the Trinity
Mattrose, "God is love" is only said by one biblical writer--the author of John/1 John. Would you have a problem with someone saying God's essence is Holiness or Righteousness, not love? (It seems like you are choosing love as the essence of God because that conforms with your theology.) I think it ...
- Mon Apr 03, 2017 7:47 am
- Forum: Theology Proper, Christology, Pneumatology
- Topic: God is Love and the Trinity
- Replies: 60
- Views: 29671
Re: God is Love and the Trinity
21centpilgrim wrote: My point is that God has always been what He is. To assert that He was not always holy, gracious, compassionate ect. is to assert that God's essence changes. If God told His creation an aspect of his essence or who He is saying "I am B". Does the creation say "we can not trust ...
- Mon Apr 03, 2017 7:13 am
- Forum: Theology Proper, Christology, Pneumatology
- Topic: God is Love and the Trinity
- Replies: 60
- Views: 29671
Re: God is Love and the Trinity
Homer wrote: It has been said that the Christian religion took the word agape and infused it with a new meaning. Love is an action word in Christianity, an attitude of affection/benevolence to another. So how was god "love" prior to creation? It sounds like you're talking about early Christianity, ...
- Sun Apr 02, 2017 6:43 pm
- Forum: Theology Proper, Christology, Pneumatology
- Topic: God is Love and the Trinity
- Replies: 60
- Views: 29671
Re: God is Love and the Trinity
Homer, I read your post as an argument for the trinity: Since God is love (and has always been) and since love requires at least two parties, God must be more than two persons. And I agree with mattrose's first comment after your OP that many will not find this to be a convincing argument for the tr...
- Sun Apr 02, 2017 6:15 pm
- Forum: Theology Proper, Christology, Pneumatology
- Topic: God is Love and the Trinity
- Replies: 60
- Views: 29671
Re: God is Love and the Trinity
Homer, I agree that the set apart definition wouldn't come into play prior to creation but it seems the morally pure definition would apply. I think you could argue (as some have) that love (agape) probably wouldn't apply prior to creation if God is one person, but could apply if God exists as a bin...
- Sun Apr 02, 2017 9:08 am
- Forum: Theology Proper, Christology, Pneumatology
- Topic: God is Love and the Trinity
- Replies: 60
- Views: 29671
Re: God is Love and the Trinity
Hi 21centpilgrim, Yeah, I certainly think it would be wrong to describe God as "only love" prior to creation, but I've never heard anyone do that. For example, in addition to being holy, I would also say he was omniscient and omnipotent prior to creation. (I'm not trying to present an exhaustive lis...
- Sun Apr 02, 2017 7:31 am
- Forum: Theology Proper, Christology, Pneumatology
- Topic: Improper to pronounce Yahweh?
- Replies: 4
- Views: 3544
Re: Improper to pronounce Yahweh?
Si wrote: Thanks for the link, very informative. In light of the fact that the New Testament writers did not use YHWH, but "Kyrios" (Lord), do you think we should look on it not necessarily as an example to follow, but them using a first century custom that we need not imitate? Clearly it would hav...