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by njd83
Sat Mar 05, 2022 7:36 pm
Forum: General Questions
Topic: General Question about various beliefs held by various people
Replies: 153
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Re: General Question about various beliefs held by various people

BTW way I just googld up "common verses about foreknowledge and predestination" in order to review the texts again to see any possible refutation of the open view: https://bible.knowing-jesus.com/topics/God~s-Foreknowledge I went through these 15 verses in the NASB, willing to look at the Greek and ...
by njd83
Sat Mar 05, 2022 3:06 pm
Forum: General Questions
Topic: General Question about various beliefs held by various people
Replies: 153
Views: 36248

Re: General Question about various beliefs held by various people

God knowing a future that has not happened yet in complete exhaustive detail about the free will agents made in his own image and likeness (he himself has free agency and a mind), is not simple at all. Its also confusing because God is so wonderful, and holy, and good, and merciful, and loving. But ...
by njd83
Sat Mar 05, 2022 2:28 pm
Forum: General Questions
Topic: General Question about various beliefs held by various people
Replies: 153
Views: 36248

Re: General Question about various beliefs held by various people

It's pretty hard to think outside of temporal terms. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gRPbrWVla68 It may in fact, be impossible for created things to do so. This is why in my early days as a believer I RAN away from anything Craig, even though I knew nothing about theology. He makes such simple thin...
by njd83
Sat Mar 05, 2022 2:24 pm
Forum: General Questions
Topic: General Question about various beliefs held by various people
Replies: 153
Views: 36248

Re: General Question about various beliefs held by various people

Dan Chapa starts to speak and I want to stop up my ears and run out of the room... hahahahaah
by njd83
Sat Mar 05, 2022 2:22 pm
Forum: General Questions
Topic: General Question about various beliefs held by various people
Replies: 153
Views: 36248

Re: General Question about various beliefs held by various people

15 minutes in, Warren McDrew presentation seems great so far. So curious what the arguments are going to be.

"Not trying to sound polemical in any way..." :idea:
by njd83
Fri Mar 04, 2022 11:35 pm
Forum: General Questions
Topic: General Question about various beliefs held by various people
Replies: 153
Views: 36248

Re: General Question about various beliefs held by various people

To put another point a little more succinctly, I am totally fine brainwashing myself with Boyd's book if its the truth. And so you should be, but the "if" part seems so incredibly careless. That is false doctrine from an evil spirit. Denying the sin nature, denying penal substitution, denying God's...
by njd83
Fri Mar 04, 2022 8:19 pm
Forum: General Questions
Topic: General Question about various beliefs held by various people
Replies: 153
Views: 36248

Re: General Question about various beliefs held by various people

To put the other point a little more succinctly,

I am totally fine brainwashing myself with Boyd's book if its the truth.
by njd83
Fri Mar 04, 2022 8:15 pm
Forum: General Questions
Topic: General Question about various beliefs held by various people
Replies: 153
Views: 36248

Re: General Question about various beliefs held by various people

It's pretty hard to think outside of temporal terms. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gRPbrWVla68 It may in fact, be impossible for created things to do so. Or it could be the case that its a topic framed wrongly by a wrong theology. =/ Which of us is quoting someone else's thoughts more? You or me?...
by njd83
Fri Mar 04, 2022 6:03 pm
Forum: General Questions
Topic: General Question about various beliefs held by various people
Replies: 153
Views: 36248

Re: General Question about various beliefs held by various people

No no no. I am tired of trying to figure all this crap out, hearing so many damn different versions and interpretations that never make coherent sense. I don't care at all if someone does all the work, if someone can explain the understanding to me. I heard it said once "You don't need to know all t...
by njd83
Fri Mar 04, 2022 5:57 pm
Forum: General Questions
Topic: General Question about various beliefs held by various people
Replies: 153
Views: 36248

Re: General Question about various beliefs held by various people

I used to say "some things we just can't understand about God", I used to teach my friends this very idea, but I never really understood what I was saying. This was an interesting statement to me. Is it impossible understand the concept of not understanding something? Or is there an unwillingness i...

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