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YouTube Videos Christology
Posted: Sat Jul 13, 2019 12:22 pm
by postpre
Hey Guys,
Check out a couple of my recent videos
The Son on God was Begotten as "The Beginning" (Proverbs 8):
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uysDavbJTFo
The Hypostatic Union is False. Jesus was Fully Human:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vVM4meloHwk&t=10s
Re: YouTube Videos Christology
Posted: Sat Jul 13, 2019 9:41 pm
by Paidion
If the Son of God is that "Wisdom" of Proverbs 8, and was begotten by God as His first acts (as it states there), then He MUST have been more than human at His begetting. No human was begotten prior to his existence as a zygote in his mother's womb.
The fact that He was begotten as the first of God's acts indicates that He was divine just as His Father is divine, even as you are human just as your parents are human.
Re: YouTube Videos Christology
Posted: Sun Jul 14, 2019 6:22 pm
by postpre
Paidion wrote: ↑Sat Jul 13, 2019 9:41 pm
If the Son of God is that "Wisdom" of Proverbs 8, and was begotten by God as His first acts (as it states there), then He MUST have been
more than human at His begetting. No human was begotten prior to his existence as a zygote in his mother's womb.
The fact that He was begotten as the first of God's acts indicates that He was divine just as His Father is divine, even as you are human just as your parents are human.
I don't think so. Why would God be limited to your assumption? The Word (who was in the beginning) BECAME flesh. Philippians 2 is clear that he was in the form of God, but emptied himself of his divinity to become man.
Re: YouTube Videos Christology
Posted: Mon Jul 15, 2019 5:26 pm
by steve
postpre,
I am not sure how your comments in your second post can be harmonized with those in your first one.
Re: YouTube Videos Christology
Posted: Mon Jul 15, 2019 7:18 pm
by postpre
steve wrote: ↑Mon Jul 15, 2019 5:26 pm
postpre,
I am not sure how your comments in your second post can be harmonized with those in your first one.
The part about God being limited? If so, please expound a bit on what you mean.
Re: YouTube Videos Christology
Posted: Tue Jul 16, 2019 10:59 am
by postpre
Re: YouTube Videos Christology
Posted: Thu Aug 01, 2019 10:50 pm
by darinhouston
Just quickly, you seem unaware of the significant variations in Unitarian positions on this. Many early and late adoptionists And subordinationists would hold to likeness of kind and even pre-existence. (even Arius). But likeness and ontological identity are not the same thing. They also hold varying positions on the term “begetting” as do many Trinitarians.
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Re: YouTube Videos Christology
Posted: Thu Aug 01, 2019 10:56 pm
by darinhouston
Paidion wrote:If the Son of God is that "Wisdom" of Proverbs 8, and was begotten by God as His first acts (as it states there), then He MUST have been more than human at His begetting. No human was begotten prior to his existence as a zygote in his mother's womb.
The fact that He was begotten as the first of God's acts indicates that He was divine just as His Father is divine, even as you are human just as your parents are human.
I’m not sure many Unitarians or even all Trinitarians would equate the Son of God with Wisdom. Some would equate the Logos with the Son but not Sophia. But others merely associate it with becoming enfleshed in the Son. Still others would equate Wisdom and Logos with each other but neither with the Son. Others all of the above.
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Re: YouTube Videos Christology
Posted: Fri Aug 02, 2019 9:07 pm
by Paidion
Well... Jesus Himself was a unitarian. In His prayer to the Father, He addressed the Father as "the only true God" (John 17:3).
He also affirmed His own pre-existence with the words "Before Abraham was, I am." (John 8:58).
Re: YouTube Videos Christology
Posted: Sat Aug 03, 2019 8:04 am
by darinhouston
Paidion wrote:Well... Jesus Himself was a unitarian. In His prayer to the Father, He addressed the Father as "the only true God" (John 17:3).
He also affirmed His own pre-existence with the words "Before Abraham was, I am." (John 8:58).
Most Unitarians would agree with the first paragraph but many would disagree that John 8:58 is meant to imply pre-existence. (though Arius believed this)
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