Timing of sanctification
Posted: Thu Jul 17, 2014 3:28 pm
The church I left a couple of weeks ago, along with many others that I talk to, believe that justification happens at the moment of salvation, but sanctification is a work in progress which will never be completed until life here is over.
With this in mind, they excuse people's habitual sins by saying, "Well, its just where they are in sanctification. The Holy Spirit will work on them at some point." The process of sanctification becomes an excuse to allow sin, and no resonsibility on a pastor to deal with sin because the pastor puts it on the Holy Spirit and the sanctification process. The one who is really blamed for the sin of the individual is the Holy Spirit because the Holy Spirit has not done a work in the believer yet to keep them from their habitual sin.
I agree with them to an extent regarding when sanctification will be complete, however, I also see evidence that sanctification is something that should be expected to happen more on earth. (Heb 10:14; 1Co 1:12; Heb 2:11; and more)
How have you guys come to see sanctification? Is it something that can be expected in this lifetime to a much greater degree than the church chooses to expect?
I don't say this with pride, but in 3 short years since I have been saved, I have come to live a relatively sanctified life in comparison with many people who have more years, some many more, than I do. I am not saying I am perfect, nor am I saying I can put a timeframe on everybody based upon my life. However, when discussions arise related to Christian lifestyle, I am told I should hold none to an expectation of improvement, that is only for the Holy Spirit to move them towards perfection.
This seems to miss the fervor I have personally committed to cutting off things from my life out of my love for God, and again removes the expectation of personal responsibility in committing to a Christ lifestyle, while placing the blame on God and the Holy Spirit.
My fervor is not to look good or be a legalist, but is based upon the love of God he directed at me first which has brought me to reciprocate my life by directing it towards him. My fervor is an outgrowth of what God has done in me, but is also a personal choice to pursue.
With this in mind, they excuse people's habitual sins by saying, "Well, its just where they are in sanctification. The Holy Spirit will work on them at some point." The process of sanctification becomes an excuse to allow sin, and no resonsibility on a pastor to deal with sin because the pastor puts it on the Holy Spirit and the sanctification process. The one who is really blamed for the sin of the individual is the Holy Spirit because the Holy Spirit has not done a work in the believer yet to keep them from their habitual sin.
I agree with them to an extent regarding when sanctification will be complete, however, I also see evidence that sanctification is something that should be expected to happen more on earth. (Heb 10:14; 1Co 1:12; Heb 2:11; and more)
How have you guys come to see sanctification? Is it something that can be expected in this lifetime to a much greater degree than the church chooses to expect?
I don't say this with pride, but in 3 short years since I have been saved, I have come to live a relatively sanctified life in comparison with many people who have more years, some many more, than I do. I am not saying I am perfect, nor am I saying I can put a timeframe on everybody based upon my life. However, when discussions arise related to Christian lifestyle, I am told I should hold none to an expectation of improvement, that is only for the Holy Spirit to move them towards perfection.
This seems to miss the fervor I have personally committed to cutting off things from my life out of my love for God, and again removes the expectation of personal responsibility in committing to a Christ lifestyle, while placing the blame on God and the Holy Spirit.
My fervor is not to look good or be a legalist, but is based upon the love of God he directed at me first which has brought me to reciprocate my life by directing it towards him. My fervor is an outgrowth of what God has done in me, but is also a personal choice to pursue.