What new ideas were introduced by Darby?

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What new ideas were introduced by Darby?

Post by thrombomodulin » Sat Sep 25, 2010 6:54 am

Steve has mentioned that some parts of the dispensational futurism view were newly introduced by Darby. I would like to know which parts of the dispensational-futurism view were unknown prior to Darby, and on the other hand which parts have historical precedent. Can anyone please help me with this?

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Re: What new ideas were introduced by Darby?

Post by SamIam » Sat Sep 25, 2010 2:26 pm

My understanding is that Darby picked up several ideas from the preaching of Edward Irving and the visions of Margaret MacDonald. Google those names and see what pops up. As always, remember the internet is not always a reliable source.

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Re: What new ideas were introduced by Darby?

Post by steve7150 » Sat Sep 25, 2010 3:03 pm

Steve has mentioned that some parts of the dispensational futurism view were newly introduced by Darby. I would like to know which parts of the dispensational-futurism view were unknown prior to Darby, and on the other hand which parts have historical precedent. Can anyone please help me with this?







I think mainly the 7 year tribulation from Daniel 9.27 and the Anti-Christ also from there "the prince to come" who will destroy the city. That idea is imported into Rev 4-19.

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Re: What new ideas were introduced by Darby?

Post by thrombomodulin » Sun Sep 26, 2010 8:49 am

Thanks.

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Re: What new ideas were introduced by Darby?

Post by Homer » Sun Sep 26, 2010 10:58 pm

Hi Thrombomodulin,

Here is a short article that may help:

http://www.christianitytoday.com/ch/131 ... darby.html

And another a bit longer that includes a third article explaining the Irving connection mentioned by SamIam:

http://www.seeking4truth.com/john_darby.htm

I have been meaning to ask you if you work in the medical field. I have an inherited condition, low level of antithrombin, that caused an extremely serious blood clot in my leg 19 years ago, so I have read of thrombomodulin.

Blessings, Homer

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Re: What new ideas were introduced by Darby?

Post by Sean » Thu Oct 07, 2010 2:24 pm

I believe he also introduced the idea that God had two distinct peoples and so his idea was that we should view the Church & Israel as separate.
He will not fail nor be discouraged till He has established justice in the earth. (Isaiah 42:4)

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Re: What new ideas were introduced by Darby?

Post by thrombomodulin » Fri Oct 08, 2010 10:17 pm

Homer,

Thanks for the links, I'll try to read them later tonight.
Homer wrote:Hi Thrombomodulin,
I have been meaning to ask you if you work in the medical field... so I have read of thrombomodulin.
I do not. My medical knowledge is quite minimal, I had long ago come to the point of picking a username and had only recently read 'Darwin's black box' by Behe. The book is full of words, most of which had not already been taken by someone else. I choose this one rather arbitrarily. It was from a fascinating chapter on the clotting of blood. I am still amazed by the complexity of the process God created.

Peter

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Re: What new ideas were introduced by Darby?

Post by thrombomodulin » Fri Oct 08, 2010 11:01 pm

The second link was helpful. It appears to affirm that the several doctrines of dispensationalism arose only slightly before Darby, mostly by Edward Irving from the year 1812 and following. Those main features being (1) two second comings of Christ - one for the rapture, another for the day of judgment. (2) israel/church distinction - so far as to say some much of scripture is for jews, and not Christians.

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