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When did John write revelation?

Posted: Thu Mar 03, 2011 3:58 pm
by marty
I know there is no 100% certain answer to this question, but can anyone here refer me to some scholarly works done on the time that Revelation was written? BTW the eschatology teaching series on this site are the best I've ever seen anywhere. Very well balanced and thoughtful!

Re: When did John write revelation?

Posted: Thu Mar 03, 2011 5:10 pm
by Mellontes
marty wrote:I know there is no 100% certain answer to this question, but can anyone here refer me to some scholarly works done on the time that Revelation was written? BTW the eschatology teaching series on this site are the best I've ever seen anywhere. Very well balanced and thoughtful!
Kenneth Gentry has written a book that delves into both the internal and external evidence for the date of writing.
The book is called Before Jerusalem Fell - The Dating of Revelation and is available:

For free here: http://www.entrewave.com/freebooks/docs/a_pdfs/kgbj.pdf

At ebay here: http://cgi.ebay.ca/BEFORE-JERUSALEM-FEL ... 563ec32e52

At Amazon.com here: http://www.amazon.com/Before-Jerusalem- ... 150&sr=1-1

Re: When did John write revelation?

Posted: Thu Mar 03, 2011 9:54 pm
by marty
Thank you! That's just what I was looking for. I've never felt comfortable about the late date for revelation just from the evidence from the book itself. This site has me hooked, I can't stop reading. :)

Re: When did John write revelation?

Posted: Fri Mar 04, 2011 3:45 pm
by alaskazimm
Before Jerusalem Fell is Gentry's doctoral thesis and as such is very in depth and a rather long, detailed read. If you don't have the time for that, let me suggest another book by Gentry - The Beast of Revelation found at amazon http://www.amazon.com/Beast-Revelation- ... 284&sr=8-1 The Beast is a lighter read where Gentry spends the first 100 pages or so giving his arguments for who he thinks the beast is and the balance of the book is dedicated to dating of Revelation.

Just another option. Both are great books.

Re: When did John write revelation?

Posted: Fri Mar 04, 2011 4:23 pm
by Mellontes
alaskazimm wrote:Before Jerusalem Fell is Gentry's doctoral thesis and as such is very in depth and a rather long, detailed read. If you don't have the time for that, let me suggest another book by Gentry - The Beast of Revelation found at amazon http://www.amazon.com/Beast-Revelation- ... 284&sr=8-1 The Beast is a lighter read where Gentry spends the first 100 pages or so giving his arguments for who he thinks the beast is and the balance of the book is dedicated to dating of Revelation.

Just another option. Both are great books.
Also available for free at: http://www.commentary.net/freebooks/doc ... s/kgbr.pdf

Re: When did John write revelation?

Posted: Sat Mar 05, 2011 11:57 am
by marty
Well thats another book on my list. Thanks again.

Re: When did John write revelation?

Posted: Mon Mar 07, 2011 9:35 am
by Mellontes
Although many would say the following is an argument from silence (and technically they would be correct), but understanding the vast amount of Scripture regarding the tabernacle, Solomon's temple, and Herod's temple, it would seem utterly UNREASONABLE for the worst Jewish tragedy of all time to NOT be mentioned in the book of Revelation, that is, if a late date (post 70 AD) is considered.

(This was also posted in response to Paidion's comment (http://www.theos.org/forum/viewtopic.ph ... 558#p46526) in the "Reconsidering the: "resurrection of the just and unjust" thread.)

Re: When did John write revelation?

Posted: Mon Mar 07, 2011 12:25 pm
by charleswest
Mellontes wrote:Although many would say the following is an argument from silence (and technically they would be correct), but understanding the vast amount of Scripture regarding the tabernacle, Solomon's temple, and Herod's temple, it would seem utterly UNREASONABLE for the worst Jewish tragedy of all time to NOT be mentioned in the book of Revelation, that is, if a late date (post 70 AD) is considered.

(This was also posted in response to Paidion's comment (http://www.theos.org/forum/viewtopic.ph ... 558#p46526) in the "Reconsidering the: "resurrection of the just and unjust" thread.)
Hmmm... The Book of Revelation states, "The Revelation of Jesus Christ, which God gave unto him...,". If a late date is probable or indeed proven, then it would seem prudent for one to argue the lack of content directly with the Author.

Point of debate: the worst Jewish tragedy of all time might alternatively be rejecting Christ to begin with...

Re: When did John write revelation?

Posted: Mon Mar 07, 2011 4:36 pm
by Amyfree
I was not episapalean just priests and sisters were our teashers - keys don't all type today - I had no idea for tens of years who Jesus was - the true and lifine God!