It does sound pretty ridiculous but I think it is you who are saying it. I'm pretty sure Paidion's train of thought was that Christ raised the bar for fulfilling the "true" meaning of the Law. Mainly because he said,dmatic wrote:It would seem that, though you probably won't admit it, you would allow adultery as long as a person did it without lust in his/her heart. Or that murder should be OK, as long as anger is not residing there. Don't you see how ridiculous it seems to ignore the commandments that still define God's heart and desire for us? There is nothing wrong with the commandments of God! They are righteous and good, yet you have demeaned them, and even called them untrue!
If Paidion is saying what I think he is saying, then it seems like you’ve introduced a straw man to knock down. If Christ is going beyond the Law of Moses, (which I see no problem with that statement) then Jesus is saying, “True…but” and not, “No… rather” which is how you have represented Paidion’s statements. It seems more ridiculous to think someone would gather that you can commit adultery without lust and murder without hate from Paidion’s post than to actually believe that way. So now you don’t have to be sad, bro. I don’t think any of the accolades came from people who believe that way either.Paidion wrote:…but he is explaining THE DEEPER LAW and how it goes well beyond the Law of Moses
Even Paidion’s final statement is not false or misleading,
Most of that is shown to be true in Colossians 3 but you could read Romans 14 and Hebrews 3 and 4 (specifically Heb. 4:3) and the fact that Jesus is said to have sat down after his priestly sacrifice in juxtaposition to the Levitical priests “standing” year after year in Hebrews 10:11-12 and that compared to Ephesians 2:6 to wrap up the Sabbaths part of Paidion’s post, and the jealousy of a husband part can be wrapped up in 1 Corinthians 7:15.Paidion wrote:Notice that Jesus refers to what is to be obeyed as "these words of mine". He is not reiterating the Law given through Moses, but he is explaining THE DEEPER LAW and how it goes well beyond the Law of Moses. And it doesn't include those parts recorded in Leviticus and elsewhere about which foods to eat, what kinds of offerngs and sacrifices to make, which days to observe, new moons and Sabbaths, what to do if a fit of jealousy comes over a husband, etc. None of those things are part of THE TRUE LAW OF GOD.
Everything he said in that passage appears to be true. I could be wrong but I’ve read the Bible through a number of times with the purpose of establishing the Biblical doctrine on this subject and I haven’t found anything contrary to his post. Do you suppose that you think by saying that we are free from the Law of Moses that it is discrediting the Law of Moses?
The New Testament never says that the Law was not glorious, but it does say that it has no glory in comparison to the Law of Christ which is written on the heart (2 Cor. 3:7-11) and Hebrews 8 even says that Jeremiah calling the New Covenant “New” suggests the Old Covenant (which included keeping the Law of it [Exodus 19:5]) was made obsolete and that it was fading. The passing of the Old Covenant with its priesthood can be marked in history and; “For when the priesthood is changed, of necessity there takes place a change of Law also.” (Hebrews 7:12) This is not an insult to the Law and its commandments because Christ’s Covenant is so much more Glorious, so much so that the author of Hebrews calls the former commandments useless because they could not allow us to draw near to God (Heb. 7:18).
It seems that most Christians assume that if what we are everyday can’t be summed up in a single list of rules then our faith is relative and useless because we can’t hand that list of rules to someone so that they can follow them. But I think this is farthest from the truth. Jesus said that ‘the Spirit will lead us into all truth’ and that ‘we have one teacher’ and that ‘when fully trained a student can be like his teacher.’ Titus 2:11-12
“11 For the GRACE of God has appeared, bringing salvation to all men,
12 INSTRUCTING us to deny ungodliness and worldly desires and to live sensibly, righteously and godly in the present age,” (EMPHESIS mine)
Notice it doesn’t say “…instructing us to keep the Ten Commandments”. It’s not necessary. God is able to transform the man’s heart with out the Letter. So people should seek the Lord on their own and not another man and his interpretation of God’s word because what if that man is doing the things on the list and has followers seeking him and his interpretation of things but spiritually he is dead and his doctrine contains hid deadness in it but the people don’t know because they can see he keeps the rules on the list. This brings us back to what Jesus seems to be saying. He seen the Jews could argue that they were keeping the rules as they appear on the list, and decided to let them in on a little secret: “The Law is Spiritual, you are carnal. You haven’t gotten God on a technicality.” He could say this because, though the Covenant changed, the Israel of God was always the same people in the Old Testament and the New and that is, those who acted justly and loved mercy and walked humbly with God. Not a family of the flesh who went through the motions and vainly took upon themselves the name of God. That was just a secret (or mystery) until Jesus revealed it to his disciples. Remember, God said listen to Jesus instead of Moses and Elijah
Don’t be sad, Brother. The rest of scripture confirms this and you don’t have to feel bad that the Law of Moses isn’t receiving props as it once did. It was intended that this would happen in this way from the beginning.
In Jesus,
Sam
