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An Arminian Piper / Driscoll / Sproul / Keller?

Posted: Fri May 12, 2017 2:09 pm
by remade
I read an article once on Roger Olsen's blog about John Piper answering the question, "Why are there no solid Arminian preachers?" In other words, when we think about book-store Christian authors, we either usually run in to prosperity-theologians, or die-hard Calvinists.

Piper responded, "Well let's not forget the Wesleys, Charles Finney, Whitefield," and other "great awakening" speakers. But ultimately Piper took the cop out, and said (I am definitely paraphrasing, I cannot find the original audio), "A good teacher today, even if it was 'successful,' and attracted devoted followers, it would ultimately be a man-centered expression of salvation."

With all this being said, can any of you think of any well-known POPULAR (with the likes of Piper, Sproul, etc.) teachers who are thoroughly Arminian today? The only few I can think of, but I never listen to because I disagree with other areas of theology, is Adam Hamilton, and NT Wright (or IS Wright an Arminian?)

Re: An Arminian Piper / Driscoll / Sproul / Keller?

Posted: Fri May 12, 2017 2:59 pm
by PR
Charles Stanley for one comes to mind. Ed Young, Chuck Swindall, David Jeremiah, Franklin Graham. I think they're all considered Arminian.

Re: An Arminian Piper / Driscoll / Sproul / Keller?

Posted: Fri May 12, 2017 4:07 pm
by dwilkins
Part of the problem with the question is that only Calvinists see the issue as Calvinism vs. Arminianism. As a result, though Calvinists would blanket them with an in accurate label, the majority of the Southern Baptist organization, all of Calvary Chapel, and schools such as Dallas Theological Seminary would be considered Arminian since they don't stipulate to Calvinist positions on lapserianism. Calvinism vs. Arminianism is a straw man created by Calvinists to intimidate non-Calvinists.

Doug

Re: An Arminian Piper / Driscoll / Sproul / Keller?

Posted: Fri May 12, 2017 4:22 pm
by jasonmodar
I agree with what I think is the spirit of Doug's comment. I can think of plenty of mainstream non-Calvinist teachers, preachers, authors, etc.

Steve Gregg, Ravi Zacharias, William Lane Craig, NT Wright, Bruxy Cavey, Greg Boyd, Frank Turek, Alister McGrath, John Lennox, CS Lewis (Yes he's dead but his impact on Christianity is still reverberating). That just off the top of my head.

Re: An Arminian Piper / Driscoll / Sproul / Keller?

Posted: Fri May 12, 2017 8:14 pm
by mattrose
There's no such thing as a good Calvinist preacher.... because they preach Calvinism

drops mic

Re: An Arminian Piper / Driscoll / Sproul / Keller?

Posted: Fri May 12, 2017 8:22 pm
by Homer
Max Lucado popped into my mind almost immediately.

Re: An Arminian Piper / Driscoll / Sproul / Keller?

Posted: Fri May 12, 2017 10:28 pm
by Candlepower
mattrose wrote:There's no such thing as a good Calvinist preacher.... because they preach Calvinism
The head of the nail, you have hit!

Re: An Arminian Piper / Driscoll / Sproul / Keller?

Posted: Sat May 13, 2017 10:08 am
by Homer
But perhaps the Calvinist preaches well when he doesn't preach Calvinism. I'm reminded of the interview of the candidate for pastor who, when asked his position on eternal security, said "I can teach it either way". :cry:

Re: An Arminian Piper / Driscoll / Sproul / Keller?

Posted: Sat May 13, 2017 10:49 am
by mattrose
Homer wrote:But perhaps the Calvinist preaches well when he doesn't preach Calvinism. I'm reminded of the interview of the candidate for pastor who, when asked his position on eternal security, said "I can teach it either way". :cry:
Haha. Depending on his tone... that is either funny or scary

Re: An Arminian Piper / Driscoll / Sproul / Keller?

Posted: Sat May 13, 2017 1:54 pm
by steve7150
But perhaps the Calvinist preaches well when he doesn't preach Calvinism. I'm reminded of the interview of the candidate for pastor who, when asked his position on eternal security, said "I can teach it either way". :cry:
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I like John MacArthur who is Calvinist and Dispensational!