I will try to get a bit more back on track here.
You’re making some very dogmatic, and very disputable assertions here about the intermediate state. Since you seem concerned about thread drift, maybe it’s better to leave it for now.When I die, my physical body will cease functioning while I go on to be with the Lord. The same thing happened for Jesus before His ressurection.
We most certainly do go on to "another kind of living" after we physically die (as did Jesus). That is why it's called "eternal life".
Correct my mistake in the following.No. The immortal God cannot die. If a person in the Godhead takes on the human nature, that person can physically die though.
1). God is immortal, by scriptural assertion.
2). What is immortal, by definition, cannot die.
3). The Word is God, by scriptural assertion.
4). Jesus is the Word, by scriptural assertion.
5). (From 3 & 4) Jesus is (and always has been) God.
6). (From 1 & 5) Jesus is immortal.
Have I made any mistakes yet?
I think this whole business of asking what happens when God does what God doesn’t do is not very fruitful. This all sprung from my assertion that I believe that God’s word is causal. I take the position that God’s word defines reality. I gave examples of it. Here it is stated plainly in scripture:No, I'm not "saying that you said that". You need to read my post a bit more carefully. I qualified this statement by saying "if you anwered "yes" to my above questions, you are stating that it's possible to break the law of non-contradiction". Then, I made the above statement, showing examples which break said rule.
John 17:17 Sanctify them through thy truth: thy word is truth.
God can say, “you are sanctified” and that becomes the truth. Reality conforms to what God says. Hence it is impossible for God to lie.
Your response to this, at least it seemed to me your response was, to posit what happens if God says something illogical. I resist this notion. God doesn’t say illogical things. That was my initial response.
You may well suppose anything once you posit “What happens when what doesn’t happen happens?” I see this is a complete non sequitur.
Reality conforming to God’s word is something that indeed does happen and is observable in the scripture and is emphatically stated in the John 17:17.
You may press the issue, my forcing me to answer the question, “What happens if God says something illogical.” My answer remains the same… I think it’s a non question. It would certainly be interesting to see. If God says, “the lamp is blue and red” then I say, that’s an interesting lamp indeed, whereas, it seems to me, you say, “God is wrong.” At least I believe that was the position you took when you said that logic would not give place to God’s word.
So in this increasingly speculative realm of non-reality, where what doesn’t happen happens, and God says what God doesn’t say, where 3=1, where exist=not exist, where married=bachelor, and where alive=dead, I hold that the rules of logic fall apart, and that God’s word, even here amidst all this chaos, remains true.
It may be that the statement “one God in three Persons” in and of itself breaks no rules of logic. I concede that point. But, imo, it inevitably leads to statements that are, as I tried to demonstrate in showing that it leads to things like, what’s immortal can die or death is not death.
And I will drop it. I don’t want you to feel shoehorned into a conversation in which you would rather not participate.I would rather not even discuss the trinity. You brought it up!
Take care,
Perry
