I had sugar diabetes , mine was over 1000. I spent 4 days in the hospital.
Then After getting out? I had to take 5 shots each day , plus pills and eating certain foods, also lost my sight pretty much!
I prayed of course! But, prayed the LORD would only heal me if it could be in HIS perfect will and not HIS permissive will!
After about 2 or 3 weeks? HE healed me!
And my sight came back!
At the same time!
How Do You Pray for the Sick?
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My husband died 6 years ago and had a long struggle with cancer. I( we) went through many changes in our prayers. I also back then ,headed up an emergency prayer group in our church. Alot of the prayer requests we got were for healings. As time went on and I saw many of the requests did not involve healings I kept wondering if we should pray for healings as that was our desire or the particular persons desire, but also open it up to Gods will since he did know best.
When my husband was very ill near the end of his life I and basically the prayer group and several folks around the planet were praying for him. He was loved by many folks .Many were sure he would get through it and make it. My husband always felt he had the gift of faith and felt very strongly he'd also make it. The last time I saw him alive was after a private prayer session he had and he told me he felt he had a word from the Lord and it was going to be difficult to walk out. He did not want to share it with me that was very unusual for him.
He went into a coma that night, and a cple days later when I saw him again, the last week of his life through prayer and observation I questioned within myself if God wanted to take him home. If that possibly was what he didn't want to tell me.
In the last 2 to 3 days of his life while he was in a coma 3 of us prayed for him almost non stop with him and away. We kept praying the Lord would heal him , that it was our desire but still in Gods will knowing that he knew best if he didn't heal him. The night before he died ( the next morning) I felt like God showed me that I really should be praying that God and Jack should be making the decision on whether he lived or died. That it was between those two ultimately. I called the prayer warriors I knew and asked them to loosen Jack up to the Lord and Let them decide. The next morning he died.
Some folks were devastated he died.My one son blamed me. some that had prayed consistently that he would live, it shattered their faith. But also others felt it was the right thing to do and actually felt in their hearts the Lord was going to take him home but didn't want to tell me.It was very hard for me to let Him go and let the 2 of them make the decision, but in the end that is really what it is all about isn't it?
Between our father and us individually? I know as time has gone by when I am in a situation I am having a hard time comprehending, like "teaching" my children and they would disobey, and I could see the danger approaching, etc. God reminded me...they are "His first" and ultimately the outcome is between them and him.
I eventually stepped down from the prayer group I was heading. I had alot of sorrow I had to go through and wasn't alot of help when folks would call for prayer and would "be sure" there loved one was going to make it, and I knew there was a great possibility they would not. I didn't want to be phony and I needed time to heal.I still pray alot though just more silently by myself.
My husband died 6 years ago and had a long struggle with cancer. I( we) went through many changes in our prayers. I also back then ,headed up an emergency prayer group in our church. Alot of the prayer requests we got were for healings. As time went on and I saw many of the requests did not involve healings I kept wondering if we should pray for healings as that was our desire or the particular persons desire, but also open it up to Gods will since he did know best.
When my husband was very ill near the end of his life I and basically the prayer group and several folks around the planet were praying for him. He was loved by many folks .Many were sure he would get through it and make it. My husband always felt he had the gift of faith and felt very strongly he'd also make it. The last time I saw him alive was after a private prayer session he had and he told me he felt he had a word from the Lord and it was going to be difficult to walk out. He did not want to share it with me that was very unusual for him.
He went into a coma that night, and a cple days later when I saw him again, the last week of his life through prayer and observation I questioned within myself if God wanted to take him home. If that possibly was what he didn't want to tell me.
In the last 2 to 3 days of his life while he was in a coma 3 of us prayed for him almost non stop with him and away. We kept praying the Lord would heal him , that it was our desire but still in Gods will knowing that he knew best if he didn't heal him. The night before he died ( the next morning) I felt like God showed me that I really should be praying that God and Jack should be making the decision on whether he lived or died. That it was between those two ultimately. I called the prayer warriors I knew and asked them to loosen Jack up to the Lord and Let them decide. The next morning he died.
Some folks were devastated he died.My one son blamed me. some that had prayed consistently that he would live, it shattered their faith. But also others felt it was the right thing to do and actually felt in their hearts the Lord was going to take him home but didn't want to tell me.It was very hard for me to let Him go and let the 2 of them make the decision, but in the end that is really what it is all about isn't it?
Between our father and us individually? I know as time has gone by when I am in a situation I am having a hard time comprehending, like "teaching" my children and they would disobey, and I could see the danger approaching, etc. God reminded me...they are "His first" and ultimately the outcome is between them and him.
I eventually stepped down from the prayer group I was heading. I had alot of sorrow I had to go through and wasn't alot of help when folks would call for prayer and would "be sure" there loved one was going to make it, and I knew there was a great possibility they would not. I didn't want to be phony and I needed time to heal.I still pray alot though just more silently by myself.
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I had two of my sisters die of cancer.
It was slow and hard !
I hate those sicknesses!
Not much can be said?
But only if HE LOVED the LORD . He is very happy. But of course those left behind miss HIM!
Death seems so final. but of course it is not!
It was slow and hard !
I hate those sicknesses!
Not much can be said?
But only if HE LOVED the LORD . He is very happy. But of course those left behind miss HIM!
Death seems so final. but of course it is not!
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I'm sorry to hear about such a tough time in your life. I've never lost someone that close to me, but my mother is 3-months into treatment for bone cancer that pretty much has eaten up all of the bones from her neck down. I've been doing a lot of praying myself.glow wrote: Some folks were devastated he died.
Once, when I was teaching on the topic of pain and suffering, I started out by asking how many parents were in the room. Most of the class raised their hands. I then asked how many of them would give up their lives for their kids. Again, mostly hands. I talked about what-if scenarios and asked how many people would take on the pain and suffering of a loved one if they could. All hands. I asked how many people, in love, would ask God to go ahead and take someone that was terminally ill while they were healthy instead of having them go through a very long, extended, painful, process prior to their death. Again, all hands. I then asked them if God knew your heart, knew how much you loved someone, knew that it would be a blessing for you not to have someone go through a painful death or your desire to take on someone else's suffering, and granted that even without your asking, what would it look like? Lots of silence.
The point that I was trying to illustrate was that some times things that appear to be suffering from our perspective may be something else from God's perspective. The sudden death of a child is horrible from the parent's perspective. I'd personally hate to go through that. But we have to trust God. It may very well be that the death of that child was a blessing because it spared the child from something much worse in their future. Ultimately, when suffering causes us to blame God or loose our faith, it comes down to us not trusting God. It's hard. We are not always promised that we will understand. But in all things we must trust God. Knowing that He knows what is going on and is working things out for the ultimate Good gives me peace.
I don't know how anyone in the Open Theism camp would get that same peace from a God that is just reacting to the present. Yet many seem to turn to Open Theism as a response to the problem of suffering. If He doesn't know, He can't be blamed. My response to that is why should we blame, when we don't know, or nearly as much as He does, where do we come off blaming Him for anything when He has promised us that He has our best interests at heart? It all comes back to trust. Do we trust Him?
D.
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Sickness is an odd thing?
Why some are healed and others not is hard to accept?
sounds funny coming from me?
I have had many bad things happen?
Been bite by a copper head, shot , on fire, car wrecks, poisoned,
burnt with a blow torch. hands brokened, ulcer busted in my belly, more i am sure?
lots of things. But HE always healed me. Why, I do not fully understand it? I know and am certain , I am no more than any child of God. Maybe less than most???
Have i failed the LORD? More than most? So I do not know why i was always healed?
But i am sure HE wants us healed. And I have seen HIM a number of times , when all looked hopeless , then He comes though!
Once MY little girl was dying, My wife and I argued what to do? she wanted to rush to the hospital, I wanted to rush to the church.
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But it was Wednesday night and church was starting.I went there .People getting out of there cars saw my child , who had changed colors and could not hold her head up. And many started crying. I rushed her in to the pastor. Told him to do as in james. Which he did .they anointed our baby with oil and were praying for my child. as they put the oil on her?
Her color changed and her little head popped up.
I took her home and fed her and she was never sick again!'
I find? obeying his simple words , bring life and healing and many blessings!
I also believe? Most sicknesses come from Sin? But not all for sure?
I also think most can be healed by obeying HIS WORD and or fasting , either the person or others fasting for them.
death is nothing for us to begin with.we are not of this world and this world is not our proper place. we have our oun home, made just for us.New Jerusalem. We do not fit in well here and do not think like the world.
But we still have the old thoughts and nature in our flesh and we love our flesh . not truly seeing our new body or life in our city!
Why some are healed and others not is hard to accept?
sounds funny coming from me?
I have had many bad things happen?
Been bite by a copper head, shot , on fire, car wrecks, poisoned,
burnt with a blow torch. hands brokened, ulcer busted in my belly, more i am sure?
lots of things. But HE always healed me. Why, I do not fully understand it? I know and am certain , I am no more than any child of God. Maybe less than most???
Have i failed the LORD? More than most? So I do not know why i was always healed?
But i am sure HE wants us healed. And I have seen HIM a number of times , when all looked hopeless , then He comes though!
Once MY little girl was dying, My wife and I argued what to do? she wanted to rush to the hospital, I wanted to rush to the church.
[longer story]
But it was Wednesday night and church was starting.I went there .People getting out of there cars saw my child , who had changed colors and could not hold her head up. And many started crying. I rushed her in to the pastor. Told him to do as in james. Which he did .they anointed our baby with oil and were praying for my child. as they put the oil on her?
Her color changed and her little head popped up.
I took her home and fed her and she was never sick again!'
I find? obeying his simple words , bring life and healing and many blessings!
I also believe? Most sicknesses come from Sin? But not all for sure?
I also think most can be healed by obeying HIS WORD and or fasting , either the person or others fasting for them.
death is nothing for us to begin with.we are not of this world and this world is not our proper place. we have our oun home, made just for us.New Jerusalem. We do not fit in well here and do not think like the world.
But we still have the old thoughts and nature in our flesh and we love our flesh . not truly seeing our new body or life in our city!
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What is Open Theism ?
It means that "time" is not a creation by God , and the future can not be known even by God because it simply does'nt exist yet, so there is nothing to be known about it.
It means that "time" is not a creation by God , and the future can not be known even by God because it simply does'nt exist yet, so there is nothing to be known about it.
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The thing is that good and evil have to exist together in this age for a purpose , which is twofold as i understand it. That we may be children of God we must experience evil and also so that God may destroy evil in the end.
Of course none of us want to be touched by the evil in this age and we pray to avoid it but i guess that everytime God intervenes in individual instances it affects the overall purposes of God's plan so perhaps that's why it's not God's will to always intervene.
Of course none of us want to be touched by the evil in this age and we pray to avoid it but i guess that everytime God intervenes in individual instances it affects the overall purposes of God's plan so perhaps that's why it's not God's will to always intervene.
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THIS is my understanding?
GOD wanted children, though the evil, HE gets tested and tried children, who are called , then tested , then accepted into HIS family and household!
of course all called are not accepted?
many are called few chosen!
so He allows this evil to go on.
This world and star system is nothing compared to all HE has made as HE is a CREATOR and has many things i would guess , we know nothing about!
We know, He CREATED new jerusalem for us . But there had to be another place where the angels and other being were before NEW JERUSALEM?
He really does not tell us EVERYTHING, about Everything. I do not think our minds could hold ir all???
Plus we have a very hard time , just understanding the things HE wants us to know as it is?
I think , if we use a few things as guides, we will see things very different? like HE is LOVE and All things , He has ever done were out of LOVE.
And that everything HE has done is done for us!
Or that HE is NOW dealing with us in a Spiritual way.
And everything is toward our inner man [our spirit]
That He is in control of our lives and has provided every thing for us live in perfect relationship with HIM.
Where we will not suffer very much at all?
I have found? He cannot do everything, we must reject evil and the devil our selves.He will not do this for us!
He does not force us to serve HIm or learn of HIm .
But has made all things within our reach.
Giving us a part of HIM ! With this part we never have to fail or lose in life!
In other wards? The HOLY GHOST knows everything and is willing to tell us or show us or guide us. if we ASK HIM???
Our battles are all spiritual first and HE has given us the weapons to always win!
But i do know also? we many times make things worse, by leaning to our understanding and then , when all seems lost? We call on HIM?
GOD wanted children, though the evil, HE gets tested and tried children, who are called , then tested , then accepted into HIS family and household!
of course all called are not accepted?
many are called few chosen!
so He allows this evil to go on.
This world and star system is nothing compared to all HE has made as HE is a CREATOR and has many things i would guess , we know nothing about!
We know, He CREATED new jerusalem for us . But there had to be another place where the angels and other being were before NEW JERUSALEM?
He really does not tell us EVERYTHING, about Everything. I do not think our minds could hold ir all???
Plus we have a very hard time , just understanding the things HE wants us to know as it is?
I think , if we use a few things as guides, we will see things very different? like HE is LOVE and All things , He has ever done were out of LOVE.
And that everything HE has done is done for us!
Or that HE is NOW dealing with us in a Spiritual way.
And everything is toward our inner man [our spirit]
That He is in control of our lives and has provided every thing for us live in perfect relationship with HIM.
Where we will not suffer very much at all?
I have found? He cannot do everything, we must reject evil and the devil our selves.He will not do this for us!
He does not force us to serve HIm or learn of HIm .
But has made all things within our reach.
Giving us a part of HIM ! With this part we never have to fail or lose in life!
In other wards? The HOLY GHOST knows everything and is willing to tell us or show us or guide us. if we ASK HIM???
Our battles are all spiritual first and HE has given us the weapons to always win!
But i do know also? we many times make things worse, by leaning to our understanding and then , when all seems lost? We call on HIM?
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