Ruing Elite, One world Govt, etc

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Re: Ruing Elite, One world Govt, etc

Post by Paidion » Thu Mar 05, 2009 10:00 pm

Brody you wrote:Please feel free to bring up the passages that you think teach a one world government, and we can discuss them.
Well Brody, I don't have any passages which I "think teach a one world government". Rather I think a one world government is implied in certain passages. But these passages would convince no one who has opted to link them to certain historic events.

The harlot of Revelation represents Babylon. The woman sits on seven hills represents Rome, the world government in the days when revelation was written.

"The woman whom you saw is the great city, which reigns over the kings of the earth." Rev 17:18

In my opinion, these prophecies were not fulfilled in However, in my opinion the events depicted in the vision given to John on Patmos did not take place in his day, nor during any of the days when Rome was the world government, but they will be fulfilled when a future world government arises.

I think Daniel 7 describes the same world government:

Thus he said: ‘As for the fourth beast, there shall be a fourth kingdom on earth, which shall be different from all the kingdoms, and it shall devour the whole earth, and trample it down, and break it to pieces. As for the ten horns, out of this kingdom ten kings shall arise, and another shall arise after them; he shall be different from the former ones, and shall put down three kings. Daniel 7:23,24

Irenaeus (120-202 A.D.) saw Daniel's prophecy this way, and saw these events as future to the days in which he lived. He wrote:

Daniel too, looking forward to the end of the last kingdom, i.e., the ten
last kings, amongst whom the kingdom of those men shall be partitioned,
and upon whom the son of perdition shall come, declares that ten horns
shall spring from the beast, and that another little horn shall arise in the
midst of them, and that three of the former shall be rooted up before his
face. He says: “And, behold, eyes were in this horn as the eyes of a man,
and a mouth speaking great things, and his look was more stout than his
fellows. I was looking, and this horn made war against the saints, and
prevailed against them, until the Ancient of days came and gave judgment
to the saints of the most high God, and the time came, and the saints
obtained the kingdom.” Then, further on, in the interpretation of the
vision, there was said to him: “The fourth beast shall be the fourth
kingdom upon earth, which shall excel all other kingdoms, and devour the
whole earth, and tread it down, and cut it in pieces. And its ten horns are
ten kings which shall arise; and after them shall arise another, who shall
surpass in evil deeds all that were before him, and shall overthrow three
kings; and he shall speak words against the most high God, and wear out
the saints of the most high God, and shall purpose to change times and
laws; and [everything] shall be given into his hand until a time of times and
a half time,” that is, for three years and six months, during which time,
when he comes, he shall reign over the earth. Of whom also the Apostle
Paul again, speaking in the second [Epistle] to the Thessalonians, and at
the same time proclaiming the cause of his advent, thus says: “And then
shall the wicked one be revealed, whom the Lord Jesus shall slay with the
spirit of His mouth, and destroy by the presence of His coming; whose
coming [i.e., the wicked one’s] is after the working of Satan, in all power,
and signs, and portents of lies, and with all deceivableness of wickedness
for those who perish; because they did not receive the love of the truth,
that they might be saved. And therefore God will send them the working
of error, that they may believe a lie; that they all may be judged who did
not believe the truth, but gave consent to iniquity,”
Paidion

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