I'm gettin old!
Derek, thanks but i only wish i was 30
Sorry about the "gettin' old" thing.My birthday is on Saturday. 28 is a very faint, distant memory
That was insensitive of me. I apologize.God bless,
Halloween Ideas
That was insensitive of me. I apologize.God bless,
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Some trust in chariots, and some in horses: but we will remember the name of the LORD our God.
Psalm 20:7
Some trust in chariots, and some in horses: but we will remember the name of the LORD our God.
Psalm 20:7
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Yeah! And stay off my front lawn, whippersnapper!Derek wrote:I'm gettin old!
Derek, thanks but i only wish i was 30Sorry about the "gettin' old" thing.My birthday is on Saturday. 28 is a very faint, distant memory
God bless,
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I just finished listening to John Ankerberg's latest series on Halloween -- I usually find him to be fairly even handed and logical (except where it comes to eschatology). But, it was the same old sort of scare routine that reminded me of the folks that used to come around my church when I was a kid and playing records backwards.
They did a good job of showing the pagan origins of Halloween, and also did a good job showing why you shouldn't have participated at the time these activities had pagan connotations.
However, I now believe that whatever pagan origins the practices or images may have had at one time have been all but co-opted in modern times. Just because certain aspects of our Christmas celebrations may be co-opted from pagan festivals doesn't mean it's a sin to wrap presents and look for Santa and have a tree, etc. Similarly, I believe Halloween has become an annual lampoon or caricature of the things that scare us as a means of coping with them.
If a community had a visible Wiccan presence, and the practice of Halloween were to be seen as a witness to support such practices, then I agree the scriptural prohibition against immitating the practices of the pagans would apply, but that's not the reality in my community.
Ankerberg's guest suggested that there was an analogy to a Southern town with a history of Ku Klux Klan activity having its town annually dress in hoods and gowns just for fun -- the images are too real to many, and send the wrong message that racial hatred is wrong. But, this is a bad analogy. Those images still do carry the primarily racial overtones. Unlike this analogy, the pagan practices are so far removed from the ordinary man, that the images just don't seem to carry those images today.
So, those are my thoughts. I still prefer my kid to dress up as Pooh and not Jason.
They did a good job of showing the pagan origins of Halloween, and also did a good job showing why you shouldn't have participated at the time these activities had pagan connotations.
However, I now believe that whatever pagan origins the practices or images may have had at one time have been all but co-opted in modern times. Just because certain aspects of our Christmas celebrations may be co-opted from pagan festivals doesn't mean it's a sin to wrap presents and look for Santa and have a tree, etc. Similarly, I believe Halloween has become an annual lampoon or caricature of the things that scare us as a means of coping with them.
If a community had a visible Wiccan presence, and the practice of Halloween were to be seen as a witness to support such practices, then I agree the scriptural prohibition against immitating the practices of the pagans would apply, but that's not the reality in my community.
Ankerberg's guest suggested that there was an analogy to a Southern town with a history of Ku Klux Klan activity having its town annually dress in hoods and gowns just for fun -- the images are too real to many, and send the wrong message that racial hatred is wrong. But, this is a bad analogy. Those images still do carry the primarily racial overtones. Unlike this analogy, the pagan practices are so far removed from the ordinary man, that the images just don't seem to carry those images today.
So, those are my thoughts. I still prefer my kid to dress up as Pooh and not Jason.
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I'm still getting more crusty by the minute....Michelle wrote:Derek wrote:Happy Birthday Michelle!!
Same to you Derek! I hope you have a great day tomorrow.
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"And when he had taken the five loaves and the two fishes, he looked up to heaven, and blessed, and brake the loaves...And they did all eat, and were filled" (Mark 6:41-42)
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"And when he had taken the five loaves and the two fishes, he looked up to heaven, and blessed, and brake the loaves...And they did all eat, and were filled" (Mark 6:41-42)
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Same here.loaves wrote:I'm still getting more crusty by the minute....Michelle wrote:Derek wrote:Happy Birthday Michelle!!
Same to you Derek! I hope you have a great day tomorrow.
Also, my apologies to everyone for derailing this thread.
Back on topic: Halloween? It doesn't bother me, but I don't go out of my way to make a big deal of it.
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Good! The heart of the problem is that so many do make a big deal of it, including some Christians. This highest "holy day" of Wicca should be entirely ignored by disciples of Christ.Back on topic: Halloween? It doesn't bother me, but I don't go out of my way to make a big deal of it.
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"Not one soul will ever be redeemed from hell but by being saved from his sins, from the evil in him." --- George MacDonald
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"Not one soul will ever be redeemed from hell but by being saved from his sins, from the evil in him." --- George MacDonald
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Wicca is a joke. It was made up in the 1950's by a British civil servant named Gerald Gardner. Although adherents call it "the Old Religion", it is actually a fanciful 50 year-old stew of Dianic goddess worship, animism, Buddhism, Hinduism, New Age, gnosticism and a lot of made-up stuff thrown in to boot. Wiccans and other neo-pagans are equivalent to the practitioners of the Greco-Roman mystery religions whom Paul ministered amongst. There is no power in it.
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Wicca is no joke. There is lots of power in it --- demonic power.
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"Not one soul will ever be redeemed from hell but by being saved from his sins, from the evil in him." --- George MacDonald
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"Not one soul will ever be redeemed from hell but by being saved from his sins, from the evil in him." --- George MacDonald