Who Can Come To Christ?

[Sean]

Sean, that logic does not follow. Just because Christ is speaking to the Jews does not mean that He is limiting all His points to the Jews.

I didn't say He was.

He clearly is not - there is no way one can honestly restrict the "world" to the Jews of Jesus' day.

For instance:

I am the living bread that came down from heaven. If anyone eats of this bread, he will live forever. This bread is my flesh, which I will give for the life of the world

For my Father's will is that everyone who looks to the Son and believes in him shall have eternal life, and I will raise him up at the last day.

I tell you the truth, unless you eat the flesh of the Son of Man and drink his blood, you have no life in you. Whoever eats my flesh and drinks my blood has eternal life, and I will raise him up at the last day.

I'm sorry Sean, even if Christ is speaking to the Jews these points are universal. I think that anyone without a bias would see that.

I didn't say that those texts can't be universal. You haven't read that essay, have you?
I said the texts that refer to those who belong to the "Father" and were being given to the "Son" were about those who were part of the Jewish remant of believers. They were the ones who had already learned from the Father.

Try and fit the apostle Paul into the statement "My sheep listen to my voice; I know them, and they follow me." Paul tried to destroy the church. That is, until Jesus knocked him down and blinded him. But why did Jesus have to do that? Why didn't Paul just follow Jesus during his earthly ministry? Wasn't Paul one of the sheep?

[Sean]

Romans 9 would be a thread all to its self...

Done.

[seer]

Sean, that logic does not follow. Just because Christ is speaking to the Jews does not mean that He is limiting all His points to the Jews.

I didn't say He was.

He clearly is not - there is no way one can honestly restrict the "world" to the Jews of Jesus' day.

For instance:

I am the living bread that came down from heaven. If anyone eats of this bread, he will live forever. This bread is my flesh, which I will give for the life of the world

For my Father's will is that everyone who looks to the Son and believes in him shall have eternal life, and I will raise him up at the last day.

I tell you the truth, unless you eat the flesh of the Son of Man and drink his blood, you have no life in you. Whoever eats my flesh and drinks my blood has eternal life, and I will raise him up at the last day.

I'm sorry Sean, even if Christ is speaking to the Jews these points are universal. I think that anyone without a bias would see that.

I didn't say that those texts can't be universal. You haven't read that essay, have you?
I said the texts that refer to those who belong to the "Father" and were being given to the "Son" were about those who were part of the Jewish remant of believers. They were the ones who had already learned from the Father.

Try and fit the apostle Paul into the statement "My sheep listen to my voice; I know them, and they follow me." Paul tried to destroy the church. That is, until Jesus knocked him down and blinded him. But why did Jesus have to do that? Why didn't Paul just follow Jesus during his earthly ministry? Wasn't Paul one of the sheep?

Sean, I'm sorry you are confusing me. Are these texts universal or not?