The Narrow Path Ministries

For that last part 1 Cor 15:32. Moses and Abraham went to heaven. But their bodies died.

I would say resurrection because we were made to be flesh. To be clothed with a glorious incorruptible flesh. to be without flesh is probably not comfortable, seeing demons also want to be embodied and do so. (demons being beings that were killed in the flood and became evil spirits on the earth to afflict living people who do not honor and obey God)

In acts 2:27 he says "you will not abandon my soul to Hades", what goes down to Hades? not the flesh.

For you will not abandon my soul to Hades, or let your Holy One see corruption.

Yes, the flesh goes to Hades. For the word "Hades" refers to the grave or tomb. God didn't abandon His Son to the tomb, or allow His body to see corruption, but raised Him from death.

Numbers 19:11: "He who is coming against the dead body of any man—is unclean seven days;" YLT

"any man" is nephesh. "dead body" is corpse in hebrew.

This is incorrect. "any man" is the translation of "adam" in Hebrew, "dead" is the translation of "muwth," and "body" is the translation of "nephesh." Thus if "nephesh" really means "soul" (as it is translated in most places in the OT), then the verse speaks of a "dead soul."

Septuagint: “ ‘The one who touches the corpse(thnesko) of any human being(psuche) will be unclean for seven days."

Actually "ψυχη" (usually transliterated as "psyche," though I prefer "psuchā") is the Greek word that is translated as "soul." However, this doesn't prove anything, since "soul" has been used throughout history to refer to people. Even today we make statements such as, "There wasn't a soul in sight!" meaning that no one is visible anywhere.

So you believe the "psuche"/soul and the "sarx"/flesh & "soma"/body are the exact same thing? There is not real difference between the soul and the body in your view?

I can think of a lot of verses that contradict that; have you searched out much of these verses and do you still come up with the idea that Sheol/Hades is just the earthly dirt grave, not the spiritual netherword consisting (at least partially) of torment/punishment ?

also, how do/did you come up with that view? maybe explain the coming to that perspective if you have the time ?

Numbers 19:11

Hebrew OT:

11 הַנֹּגֵ֥עַ בְּמֵ֖ת לְכָל־נֶ֣פֶשׁ אָדָ֑ם וְטָמֵ֖א שִׁבְעַ֥ת יָמִֽים׃

11 The one who touches the dead-corpse(behmet) of a nephesh(soul) of an adam-kind shall be unclean 7 days

Septuagint, Greek:

11 Ὁ(whoever) ἁπτόμενος(touches) τοῦ(the) τεθνηκότος(corpse) πάσης(of any) ψυχῆς(soul) ἀνθρώπου(of a human) ἀκάθαρτος(unclean) ἔσται(will be) ἑπτὰ(seven) ἡμέρας(days)·

11 “ ‘The one who touches the corpse(thnesko) of any human(anthropos) being(psuche) will be unclean for seven days.

11 The one who touches the corpse of any soul of a human will be unclean for 7 days.

Another church father quote about Souls after death and shadowy spirits and demonization of areas etc

Origen - Against Celsus - Book 7
CHAP. V
Moreover, if it is believed not only among Christians and Jews, but also by many others among the Greeks and Barbarians, that the human soul lives and subsists after its separation from the body; and if reason supports the idea that pure souls which are not weighed down with sin as with a weight of lead ascend on high to the region of purer and more ethereal bodies, leaving here below their grosser bodies along with their impurities; whereas souls that are polluted and dragged down to the earth by their sins, so that they are unable even to breathe upwards, wander hither and thither, at some times about sepulchres, where they appear as the apparitions of shadowy spirits, at others among other objects on the ground;—if this is so, what are we to think of those spirits that are attached for entire ages, as I may say, to particular dwellings and places, whether by a sort of magical force or by their own natural wickedness?

Are we not compelled by reason to set down as evil such spirits as employ the power of prophesying—a power in itself neither good nor bad—for the purpose of deceiving men, and thus turn them away from God, and from the purity of His service? It is moreover evident that this is their character, when we add that they delight in the blood of victims, and in the smoke and odour of sacrifices, and that they feed their bodies on these, and that they take pleasure in such haunts as these, as though they sought in them the sustenance of their lives; in this resembling those depraved men who despise the purity of a life apart from the senses, and who have no inclination except for the pleasures of the body, and for that earthly and bodily life in which these pleasures are found.

If the Delphian Apollo were a god, as the Greeks suppose, would he not rather have chosen as his prophet some wise man? or if such an one was not to be found, then one who was endeavouring to become wise? How came he not to prefer a man to a woman for the utterance of his prophesies? And if he preferred the latter sex, as though he could only find pleasure in the breast of a woman, why did he not choose among women a virgin to interpret his will?