How about considering perspective?

[Guest]

Dear Crusader,

Like Steve, I am dumbfounded by your lack of responses to points made or questions asked of you. I would like to hear your thoughts regarding the question I posed to you. Ignoring challenges to your position makes it appear to be very weak but I guess that's to be expected - Calviminian seems illogical to me.

Although I believe Calvinism is not correct (a blending of Manichaean fatalism into Christianity), at least it is a logically consistent system. If any of the five points of Calvinism are removed, the ediface collapses. Free will and Calvinism can not both be true.

I look forward to your response.

Blessings, Homer

[Guest]

When I was a child, I was taught that it is rude not to answer people when they ask you a direct question in conversation. Perhaps, Crusader, you do not know that a forum is a conversation, or else you are simply impolite.

It is certainly ungentlemanly, when others go to great pains to compose responsible answers to your points and questions (on the assumption that you asked them because you were seeking answers), for you then to ignore the honest questions they put to you, and to pretend that they have not said anything to you at all.

I think you have been unconscionably rude to Homer and Sean as well as to me, in refusing to interact when we are seeking to converse with you. Compliments to me do not cancel out rude behavior. Please do not participate any more on this forum until you can exhibit some basic courtesy. Even a man who is not in public ministry should learn some manners. How much more someone who dares to address the children of the living God!

[Jill]

After praying about it...I have decided to remove myself from this site..I dont think I was being rude...I think I explained nicely that I thought this had run its course.I was not going to move on to any other questions until the tasso question was answered...and frankly it wasnt..I had a response for Homer but left to cook dinner for my children...I certainly owe no one an apology...I deleted this post and retyped it...because of my relationship with my Lord...I can only attribute the way this debate over the word tasso evolved that such tension arose. Any debate can get intense,personaly I like it when someone can counter with valid points and a dialouge can ensue..To me this never was the case because in my course of holding people responsible for what they said, which in many cases wasnt adequate, caused tension to increase. Thats where I thought it had ended and I certainly felt I was under no obligation to continue, in fact if Im not mistaking I think others had referred to this winding down. I dont like being threatened , intimidated or requested to apologize when its not neccessary. For the record I am not a Calvanist...I am not an Arminianist either...I believe both free will and Gods Sovierngty are taught in Scripture.I am opposed to the extreme theology which people create to hold up what they conclude must be true when either Gods Soviergnty or mans free will are taken to the extreme. My only reason for arugeing in defense of God Sovierngty here is that in an audience of Arminainists if I can illustrate Gods Sovierngty is taught in the Scripture then possibly ,since they know thier view is taught there ,they can accept the deeper truth that both are valid as revealed in the Bible. They just run side by side,ideas which God can reconcile but we cant. Some here feel the need for all the answers,and that might be comforting,its nice to think we have it all figured out. Yet that may just not be the case...and of course that is what I contend is just the case. If nothing more comes from this than Arminianists researching the word tasso in context with Acts 13:48 and the other times its used in the New Testament then its been a great time. As for an apology none is offered here nor will one be forthcoming. My only defense are the words written on this subject in these posts before ...let the readers weigh it out,as for me I will leave based on what I consider politics...


Lord Bless you

Steve

[Guest]

We're done, Amigo... Adios!

[Guest]

After praying about it...I have decided to remove myself from this site..I dont think I was being rude...I think I explained nicely that I thought this had run its course.I was not going to move on to any other questions until the tasso question was answered...and frankly it wasnt..I had a response for Homer but left to cook dinner for my children...I certainly owe no one an apology...I deleted this post and retyped it...because of my relationship with my Lord...I can only attribute the way this debate over the word tasso evolved that such tension arose. Any debate can get intense,personaly I like it when someone can counter with valid points and a dialouge can ensue..To me this never was the case because in my course of holding people responsible for what they said, which in many cases wasnt adequate, caused tension to increase. Thats where I thought it had ended and I certainly felt I was under no obligation to continue, in fact if Im not mistaking I think others had referred to this winding down. I dont like being threatened , intimidated or requested to apologize when its not neccessary. For the record I am not a Calvanist...I am not an Arminianist either...I believe both free will and Gods Sovierngty are taught in Scripture.I am opposed to the extreme theology which people create to hold up what they conclude must be true when either Gods Soviergnty or mans free will are taken to the extreme. My only reason for arugeing in defense of God Sovierngty here is that in an audience of Arminainists if I can illustrate Gods Sovierngty is taught in the Scripture then possibly ,since they know thier view is taught there ,they can accept the deeper truth that both are valid as revealed in the Bible. They just run side by side,ideas which God can reconcile but we cant. Some here feel the need for all the answers,and that might be comforting,its nice to think we have it all figured out. Yet that may just not be the case...and of course that is what I contend is just the case. If nothing more comes from this than Arminianists researching the word tasso in context with Acts 13:48 and the other times its used in the New Testament then its been a great time. As for an apology none is offered here nor will one be forthcoming. My only defense are the words written on this subject in these posts before ...let the readers weigh it out,as for me I will leave based on what I consider politics...


Lord Bless you

Steve

I don't think it helped the matter by saying:

Your surrender is accepted...I will rule humbly over your theology and be gracious to the stiff necked...

As far as tasso, I quoted a definition that included the meaning dispose. I guess I'm not at liberty to use it since you don't agree with it. No matter, we both have liberty in the matter.

I think the Holy Spirit works on those who hear the Gospel, some who are cut to the heart reject it, yet others repent and believe, all the work of God (the Holy Spirit) yet not without a response from us.

God bless,
I enjoyed the debate. As far as I am concerned, you don't have to go away. Realize that no matter where you go, you will never be in complete agreement with others in these matters. Nor or all of us in complete agreement with each other about everything.