Sure, if we had any reasonable basis to believe that the saints could hear our pleas, then why not? But, that's precisely the problem here and begs the question -- we don't believe the saints in heaven have any ability to hear our prayers.anochria wrote:If we have direct access to the Father because of Christ, as was said rightly by Paidion, why do we as Christians intercede on each other's behalf in prayer, or ask for others to pray for us?
And if we are to intercede on one other's behalf and ask for others to pray for us, as Scripture indicates, then wouldn't it be logical that those who are seated with Christ, reigning with him (ie, the departed saints) would be worthy candidates to pray to the Father on our behalf?
I'm veiling my personal beliefs on this for a moment in hopes of reigniting this discussion, which I think is missing a few peices Thoughts on these questions?
But, also, most who venerate the saints/mary do more than ask them to petition Christ on our behalf. They believe much more generally about the power of the saints/mary to "DO" things for us, and to grant us things. This is a different point, but is leads to the points regarding worship.