Has anyone seen this explained in amil perspective?
First Siege-------------Cyrus Decree----------------------------Restoration of Nation
(606BC)-----70yrs--------(537BC)------2483y,9m,14d----------------(5/14/48)
(587BC)-----70yrs---------(537BC)------2483y,9m,14d----------------(6/7/68)
--Jerusalem destroyed---Darius Decree--------------------------------Regain Nation
2483+... has something to do with time served in babylon x 7.
Prophetic Clock (so-called)
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But the time served in Babylon was 70 years and x7 will still only get 490 years. Which sounds oddly familiar to the 70 weeks prophesied in Dan 9
Where did you find this? I'd be curious how they get to 2483 years also.

Where did you find this? I'd be curious how they get to 2483 years also.
Re: Prophetic Clock (so-called)
I don't think I understand how this is being reckoned.
It looks like the 2483 years (reaching May 14, 1948) is attained by taking the 483 years (69 weeks) and then arbitrarily adding the number 2000 to them. What justifies this addition? The prophecy of Daniel does not mention them. Is there someplace in scripture that supplies a reason to add 2000 to the 483?
If the 483 years bring us to the time of Messiah (as Daniel said would be the case), and then we are supposed to add 2000 years to that number (as someone has done, in this case, but without explanation of why), then we would expect to see something happen 2000 years after the Messiah came (that is, after the 483 years. Wouldn't that mean the event would have to take place in or after the year 2000?
It looks like the 2483 years (reaching May 14, 1948) is attained by taking the 483 years (69 weeks) and then arbitrarily adding the number 2000 to them. What justifies this addition? The prophecy of Daniel does not mention them. Is there someplace in scripture that supplies a reason to add 2000 to the 483?
If the 483 years bring us to the time of Messiah (as Daniel said would be the case), and then we are supposed to add 2000 years to that number (as someone has done, in this case, but without explanation of why), then we would expect to see something happen 2000 years after the Messiah came (that is, after the 483 years. Wouldn't that mean the event would have to take place in or after the year 2000?
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I think I found how they're calculating this -- it is calculated in pages 4-7 of this book. -- bizarre
http://www.yodelingfrog.com/Chuck%20Mis ... Daniel.pdf
http://www.yodelingfrog.com/Chuck%20Mis ... Daniel.pdf
Re: Prophetic Clock (so-called)
I have always thought that Chuck Missler seems to have such a strange view of God—not only in this case, but he gravitates toward sensationalism in all of his prophetic teaching. He seems to think that God entertains Himself by making up arcane mathematical puzzles pointing to the exact date of future events, the advance knowledge of which would seemingly have no impact upon the well-being of believers or of the church as a whole.
While there is a legitimate case in Daniel 9 of God giving a seemingly exact timeframe for the most important event in history (the career, death and resurrection of Jesus), even it does not involve abstract mathematical calculations. It is a straightforward announcement of the number of years—even though the exact starting point has proven to be ambiguous.
In Daniel 9, there is no need to find this number from one passage and another number from another passage, and to arbitrarily add or multiply them by each other, then subtract the square-root of a number from yet another passage. Of course, I am exagerating, but this is the impression I always get when someone tries to pass off these elaborate mathematical schemes. It appeals to the same kind of naivete that was sucked-in by "The Bible Code" and by the "88 Reasons why the Rapture Will be in 1988."
While there is a legitimate case in Daniel 9 of God giving a seemingly exact timeframe for the most important event in history (the career, death and resurrection of Jesus), even it does not involve abstract mathematical calculations. It is a straightforward announcement of the number of years—even though the exact starting point has proven to be ambiguous.
In Daniel 9, there is no need to find this number from one passage and another number from another passage, and to arbitrarily add or multiply them by each other, then subtract the square-root of a number from yet another passage. Of course, I am exagerating, but this is the impression I always get when someone tries to pass off these elaborate mathematical schemes. It appeals to the same kind of naivete that was sucked-in by "The Bible Code" and by the "88 Reasons why the Rapture Will be in 1988."
Re: Prophetic Clock (so-called)
2483+... has something to do with time served in babylon x 7.
darinhouston
I've heard of the 7 times punishment mentioned by Moses and the year for a day and the year being symbolic of the time of punishment of the Israelites.
Anyway it comes to 360 years X 7 = 2,520 years added to 586BC (the year the jews lost the land) = 1934 which is when Hitler gained power which lead to the creation of Israel.
darinhouston
I've heard of the 7 times punishment mentioned by Moses and the year for a day and the year being symbolic of the time of punishment of the Israelites.
Anyway it comes to 360 years X 7 = 2,520 years added to 586BC (the year the jews lost the land) = 1934 which is when Hitler gained power which lead to the creation of Israel.
Re: Prophetic Clock (so-called)
Is there someplace in scripture that supplies a reason to add 2000 to the 483?
According to John Macarthur at the time of Jesus first advent unrighteousness was not ended therefore it must be at his second coming.
According to John Macarthur at the time of Jesus first advent unrighteousness was not ended therefore it must be at his second coming.