Was Jesus raised "in the Flesh"?

[RickC]

Allyn,

Cool! Do you know what interstate you'll be taking through Ohio? If you're going by way of Columbus (I-70) - I live 20 minutes north of it near Dayton (I-70 & I-75 intersect there). If I'm not working by then, there are lots of restaurants right there. We could meet, no problem.

Unfortunately, I couldn't put you up for the evening. I live in a refurbished hospital, rent a small room.

If you're taking a northern route (like I-90), that would be too far for me to drive.

Anyways, let me know! (by PM if you like)

P.S. I just checked Google maps. I-90 looks like the way you would go. It's almost a straight shot from NH to NE.

[steve7150]

And since Steve7150 ignored my question, perhaps you could explain to me how YOU would flee Judea at your supposed future coming. Oh, yeah. You likely "chop" Matthew 24 and 25 into two portions - one for 70 AD and one for the end of time and history.





It seems like preterists have some type of technique where they ask a bunch of leading questions they see as pointing to 70AD and if these questions are'nt promptly answered, they imply victory. It also seems like your primary focus in studying scripture is to validate your system of bible interpretation. I don't see you talk about much of anything else for example.
While i think 70AD is a very important event , i think your whole system is flawed and you arbitrarily read into passages conclusions to validate your systemized thinking.
So to sum up things:
There will be a real second coming of Christ
There will be a day of judgment for the world,
there will be a physical resurrection of "all" the dead
the righteous will receive glorified supernatural bodies, like Jesus has.
there will be an end to evil
there will be a be a renewed heavens and earth free from the effects of sin and as Paul said "God will be all in all."

[Allyn]

And since Steve7150 ignored my question, perhaps you could explain to me how YOU would flee Judea at your supposed future coming. Oh, yeah. You likely "chop" Matthew 24 and 25 into two portions - one for 70 AD and one for the end of time and history.





It seems like preterists have some type of technique where they ask a bunch of leading questions they see as pointing to 70AD and if these questions are'nt promptly answered, they imply victory. It also seems like your primary focus in studying scripture is to validate your system of bible interpretation. I don't see you talk about much of anything else for example.
While i think 70AD is a very important event , i think your whole system is flawed and you arbitrarily read into passages conclusions to validate your systemized thinking.
So to sum up things:
There will be a real second coming of Christ
There will be a day of judgment for the world,
there will be a physical resurrection of "all" the dead
the righteous will receive glorified supernatural bodies, like Jesus has.
there will be an end to evil
there will be a be a renewed heavens and earth free from the effects of sin and as Paul said "God will be all in all."

Have I been doing that, Steve? Not intentionally if so.

I do have a question for any Partial Preterist on the board - Most futurist place the 2nd coming of Christ around events they say are about to transpire concerning Israel. What is it that bring the 2nd coming according to PPs?

[Mellontes]

And since Steve7150 ignored my question, perhaps you could explain to me how YOU would flee Judea at your supposed future coming. Oh, yeah. You likely "chop" Matthew 24 and 25 into two portions - one for 70 AD and one for the end of time and history.

It seems like preterists have some type of technique where they ask a bunch of leading questions they see as pointing to 70AD and if these questions are'nt promptly answered, they imply victory. It also seems like your primary focus in studying scripture is to validate your system of bible interpretation. I don't see you talk about much of anything else for example.
While i think 70AD is a very important event , i think your whole system is flawed and you arbitrarily read into passages conclusions to validate your systemized thinking.
So to sum up things:
There will be a real second coming of Christ
There will be a day of judgment for the world,
there will be a physical resurrection of "all" the dead
the righteous will receive glorified supernatural bodies, like Jesus has.
there will be an end to evil
there will be a be a renewed heavens and earth free from the effects of sin and as Paul said "God will be all in all."

Look, we have done our best to answer the flow of questions from you folks. But when we ask a question, all we get is more deflection.

[steve7150]

Have I been doing that, Steve? Not intentionally if so.

I do have a question for any Partial Preterist on the board - Most futurist place the 2nd coming of Christ around events they say are about to transpire concerning Israel. What is it that bring the 2nd coming according to PPs?




Hi Allyn,
No you have been very reasonable, i should have said "some." My understanding is that we have no idea when Christ is coming back although some equate it to Israel, some like Harold Camping think it's May 2011. Perhaps it's something akin to when the Cannanites inequities overflowed from the cup and it was time for judgment. Perhaps this world can bear a certain amount of evil until the cup of inequity overflows and then it's judgment day.

[Allyn]

Have I been doing that, Steve? Not intentionally if so.

I do have a question for any Partial Preterist on the board - Most futurist place the 2nd coming of Christ around events they say are about to transpire concerning Israel. What is it that bring the 2nd coming according to PPs?




Hi Allyn,
No you have been very reasonable, i should have said "some." My understanding is that we have no idea when Christ is coming back although some equate it to Israel, some like Harold Camping think it's May 2011. Perhaps it's something akin to when the Cannanites inequities overflowed from the cup and it was time for judgment. Perhaps this world can bear a certain amount of evil until the cup of inequity overflows and then it's judgment day.

Preterists know the timing through what is shown in Scripture from the prophets all the way to the inspired NT writers. No guess work is required.
The resurrection could not happen until at the time of the AoD (according to Daniel). The AoD was at the end of the age (according to Jesus and Daniel). Christ could not come until the New Covenant came in after the resurrection (according to Hebrews 10 quoting Jer. 31). The second coming is at the time of the resurrection.