The Deity of Jesus

[dwight92070]

What prophet or apostle (p or a) could ever or can now, promise peace to millions of His followers, down through the ages? None. Only Jesus. Only God.
What p or a could ever or can now, offer forgiveness of sin to millions of people, down through the ages? None. Only Jesus. Only God.
Only God can do these things, yet Jesus claims He can do them.
What p or a could ever or can now, promise to millions of people, down through the ages, that He and the Father will come to them and make their dwelling with them? Only God can do this, yet Jesus claims that He can do this.

[dwight92070]

Isaiah 40:3 says: "A voice is calling, 'Clear the way for the Lord in the wilderness, make smooth in the desert a highway for our God'."

Here is a prophecy about John the Baptist and his message. The word "Lord" here is "Yahweh", Who is God. Matthew confirms this in Matthew 3:3, that it is Jesus Who is being referred to here. John the Baptist's father also confirms this in his prophecy about his son: " ... and you child, will be called the prophet of the MOST HIGH; for you will go on before the Lord to prepare His ways; ..." Luke 1:76

[dwight92070]

Biblical faith is faith in God only, yet the New Testament has maybe two dozen (or more) references encouraging us to have faith in Jesus, down through the ages until He comes. If He is not God, then that is idolatry.
Imagine the apostles or the prophets telling their audiences to have faith in them. They couldn't ask that, because they were not God.

Jesus said to His disciples, "Blessed are you when people ... persecute you, and ... say evil against you because of Me ... for your reward in heaven is great." The a and p could not say that about themselves, nor could they promise anyone a great reward in heaven. Only God could do that.

[darinhouston]

Only God could do that.

Or one given that authority by God.

I've been very busy at work and have not been able to digest what has been posted lately.

[dwight92070]

Only God could do that.

Or one given that authority by God.

I've been very busy at work and have not been able to digest what has been posted lately.

So a human being was given authority by God, so that all things were created by Him?

[darinhouston]

Only God could do that.

Or one given that authority by God.

I've been very busy at work and have not been able to digest what has been posted lately.

So a human being was given authority by God, so that all things were created by Him?

Well, I don't think the "all things created by him" passage means what you think it does. So, that's not a helpful question.

[dwight92070]

If it means what I think it does, then it is a very helpful question. All things came into being through Him, and apart from Him nothing came into being that has come into being. You want us to believe that the "Him" is not God. But only God could cause things to come into being, when previously they did not exist.

You say that Jesus is not God, but the reality is that Jesus is not YOUR God.

[dwight92070]

Colossians 1:17 tells us: "He is before all things, and in Him all things hold together." So He existed before all things, and He holds all the molecular structure of those things together, even our own bodies! Verse 19 says: "For it was the (Father's) good pleasure for all the fullness to dwell in Him." So all the fullness of God Himself dwelled in Jesus. If that wasn't plain enough, Colossians 2:9 says: "For in Him dwells all the fullness of the Godhead bodily; ..." In 2:2, Christ is called "God's mystery" ... in whom are hidden all the treasures of wisdom and knowledge."
No mere man can claim or even take on such attributes. How can it be that we are dealing with anyone other than God in the flesh?
The Trinity has been scorned, by saying that God cannot be praying to God, or how can God send God into the world to die for our sins, or how can the Son and the Father and the Spirit all be God? When we answer, "It's not humanly logical, but it is true, nonetheless - it is indeed a mystery.", we are scoffed at. But the truth is that Christ is called God's mystery, so even though we can understand many things about Him, there is much that we cannot know until we see Him. We are simply presenting the truth of God's word, even the pieces of the puzzle don't all seem to fit. It appears that that's the way God wants it.

[dwight92070]

Luke 16:17-19 - "Jesus came down with them ... and there was a large crowd of His disciples, and a great throng of people from all Judea and Jerusalem and the coastal region of Tyre and Sidon, who had come to hear Him and to be healed of their diseases; and those who were troubled with unclean spirits were being cured. And all the people were trying to touch Him, for power was coming from Him and healing them all."

No mere human, no matter how filled with the Holy Spirit, nor how much he is led by the Spirit, has ever, or could ever produce these kinds of supernatural results. Only God could do this, and indeed it was God who did these hundreds, and maybe even thousands of miracles.

In His sermon on the mount, He taught with the authority that only God has. What human could ever say that he came to fulfill the law? What human actually clarified what constituted adultery? The law never did that. What human could or ever did promise rewards from God the Father for doing good works without wanting to be seen? What human being could ever say that he had the authority to deny or allow entry to anyone wishing to enter the kingdom of heaven?

[darinhouston]

Luke 16:17-19 - "Jesus came down with them ... and there was a large crowd of His disciples, and a great throng of people from all Judea and Jerusalem and the coastal region of Tyre and Sidon, who had come to hear Him and to be healed of their diseases; and those who were troubled with unclean spirits were being cured. And all the people were trying to touch Him, for power was coming from Him and healing them all."

No mere human, no matter how filled with the Holy Spirit, nor how much he is led by the Spirit, has ever, or could ever produce these kinds of supernatural results. Only God could do this, and indeed it was God who did these hundreds, and maybe even thousands of miracles.

Yes, only God can do this and God did this through both Jesus and His apostles.

In His sermon on the mount, He taught with the authority that only God has. What human could ever say that he came to fulfill the law? What human actually clarified what constituted adultery? The law never did that. What human could or ever did promise rewards from God the Father for doing good works without wanting to be seen? What human being could ever say that he had the authority to deny or allow entry to anyone wishing to enter the kingdom of heaven?

It seems clear to me that all the things he spoke he received from the Father.