The gap in the 70 weeks is not absurd

[Guest]

Good post, Crusader, amen. Maybe it does seem to say that the destruction must occur within the 70th week according to the passage in 2 thessalonians!!

[Jill]

Heres one I googled on Jewish weddings....there are probaly a lot more..I heard it years ago...

http://fp.thebeers.f9.co.uk/weddings.htm


Titus 2:13
13 Looking for that blessed hope, and the glorious appearing of the great God and our Saviour Jesus Christ;
(KJV)


One quick point to ponder if your eschatology has you looking for someone other than Jesus...double check it. ( I threw that in for free)

Maranatha ( The Lord Commeth)
Crusader

Since you ask so many questions I 'll throw in a free joke!!!!!

This little kids praying to God. Hey Lord how much money do you have?...the Lord replies well one of your pennies I count as a billion dollars. Amazed the kid asks another question! Hey Lord how much time do you have? The Lord says well I count a million years as one second ? There is a silence for a minute,then the liitle kid says " Hey Lord can you lend me one your pennies? Sure the Lord replies......just give me a second.

[Guest]

Hello Crusader,

Thanks for the reply, but you didn't really answer my questions.

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You had stated, "In the Old Testament when a Jewish Bridegrrom was engaged the Bride was always supposed to ready since the Groom would and did appear unannounced to sweep her away. So it will be with the coming of Jesus for His Church,His Bride."

And I asked, "Could you point me to where in the Old Testament it talks about when a Jewish Bridegroom was engaged the Bride was always supposed to be ready since the Groom would and did appear unannounced to sweep her away? I'd like to read that for myself."

You answered by referring me to a web site, not an Old Testament scripture reference.

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You had stated, "... we are constantly admonished in the New Testament to be looking for that Blessed Hope."

And I asked, "... could you point me to some of those New Testament scriptures that constantly admonish us to look for the Blessed Hope?"

You answered by giving me just one scripture reference. One admonishion hardly qualifies as "constantly".

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You didn't answer my initial question, which was, "Do you really believe that it has been the "last days" for almost 2,000 years? That sure is a lot of days."

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Could we try it again?

Thanks!

[Jill]

Mort...no I wont...you can look tor the resurrection as your blessed hope if you like...I will look for the One who raises the dead as mine ( just as Paul advised the Church)..if you feel so inclined to pick apart ever word I use then by all means be my guest but you understood what I was saying, or it wouldnt have bothered you so much...hey I know what...I'll give you a homework assignment since your so ambitious...do a study on the Blessed Hope and see what you find.....your free to start now!

Crusader

[Guest]

Crusader,

Mort has already seen the one scripture that mentions the blessed hope, so it is not much of a homework assignment.

Mort has made no attempt "to pick apart ever word" in your post. He is only holding you accountable for the things you assert. This is how people concerned about the truth conduct discourse.

I'm going to ask you to answer his questions, or retract your statements. These are the only two honest responses open to you. If you will not be honest, I will have to ban you from posting here.

[Jill]

Steve if I can be called a troll...and you say nothing then I am not listing Scriptures upon demand because someone cant understand what is elemental to Christianity...the blessed hope and that every Christian is supposed to be watching for His coming..so I will tell you what I will give Mort the benefit of the doubt and try to give him the raw data he can look it up....but the first thing a baby Christian learns is that Jesus is coming again....and for everyone who reads this....including you Steve and Mort and Sean...its called the Blessed Hope and its imminent....



http://www.jesusiscoming.com/Scripture.htm


Crudsader

[Guest]

Thank you for going to the trouble of posting the link, Crusader, but again, you have not answered my questions...

How can we engage in any type of dialog?

[Guest]

Crusader: “I think weve been in the last days since the early Church”

Mort: "Do you really believe that it has been the "last days" for almost 2,000 years? That sure is a lot of days."

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Crusader: "... we are constantly admonished in the New Testament to be looking for that Blessed Hope."

Mort: "... could you point me to some of those New Testament scriptures that constantly admonish us to look for the Blessed Hope?"

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Crusader: "In the Old Testament when a Jewish Bridegrrom was engaged the Bride was always supposed to ready since the Groom would and did appear unannounced to sweep her away. So it will be with the coming of Jesus for His Church,His Bride."

Mort: "Could you point me to where in the Old Testament it talks about when a Jewish Bridegroom was engaged the Bride was always supposed to be ready since the Groom would and did appear unannounced to sweep her away? I'd like to read that for myself."

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[Guest]

So when you see standing in the holy place 'the abomination that causes desolation,'[a] spoken of through the prophet Daniel—let the reader understand—" Matthew 24:15


"And he will make a firm covenant with the many for one week, but in the middle of the week he will put a stop to sacrifice and grain offering; and on the wing of (A)abominations will come one who makes desolate, even until a (B)complete destruction, one that is decreed, is poured out on the one who makes desolate." Daniel 9:27


Dan 9.26 "And after the 62 weeks Messiah shall be cut off ,but not for Himself.
And the people of the prince who is to come ,shall destroy the city and
the sanctuar."


The problem is that this sentence is out of chronological order. If it came after "desolate" it would make more sense but clearly Messiah was cut off in the middle of the week which means there was a period of one week in sight. And that week still had 3 1/2 years left after Messiah was cut off. Therefore since HE made a covenant for one WEEK but was cut off in the middle of the WEEK the covenant was still being made for the rest of the week through Christ's Apostles who were offering it to the HOUSE OF JUDAH until the stoning of Stephen when it was officially rejected by the HOUSE OF JUDAH. Jer 31.31

Then as Jesus said in Matt 24 there would occur in "THIS GENERATION" the abomination of desolation spoken of by the prophet Daniel."

[Guest]

It's somewhat disconcerting how Crusader's posts are edited and re-edited and sometimes deleted altogether. One responds to a posting of his/hers but then the posting one responded to is radically altered or removed. There's something mildly disingenuous about it.

Crusader, if it makes you feel better (and I honestly hope it will) the Internet term "troll" was originally based not on the mythical creature (ala Shrek) but on the fishing term "trolling" (see definition 1 below). Later, certain punsters further elaborated on the term (see definition 2 below):

According to the Internet Jargon File (http://www.catb.org/jargon/html/T/troll.html):

troll

1. v.,n. [From the Usenet group alt.folklore.urban] To utter a posting on Usenet designed to attract predictable responses or flames; or, the post itself. Derives from the phrase “trolling for newbies” which in turn comes from mainstream “trolling”, a style of fishing in which one trails bait through a likely spot hoping for a bite. The well-constructed troll is a post that induces lots of newbies and flamers to make themselves look even more clueless than they already do, while subtly conveying to the more savvy and experienced that it is in fact a deliberate troll. If you don't fall for the joke, you get to be in on it. See also YHBT.

2. n. An individual who chronically trolls in sense 1; regularly posts specious arguments, flames or personal attacks to a newsgroup, discussion list, or in email for no other purpose than to annoy someone or disrupt a discussion. Trolls are recognizable by the fact that they have no real interest in learning about the topic at hand - they simply want to utter flame bait. Like the ugly creatures they are named after, they exhibit no redeeming characteristics, and as such, they are recognized as a lower form of life on the net, as in, “Oh, ignore him, he's just a troll.” Compare kook.

The term is a description of one's online behavior. Can you see how your behavior has matched the descriptions above (particularly #2)?

I've concluded that you are, in fact, trolling and will no longer attempt to engage in dialog with you. Have a nice life.